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Cloning using Pattern Buffers
Posted By: Steve LevinsonDate: 2/20/02 9:39 a.m.

In Response To: Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you. (Boomer)

: Oh shit! The player also uses Pfhor patternbuffers! What if the Pfhor
: had manipulated the players patterns and made the perfect anti-
: cyborg cyborgs! I wonder how it would feel to meet myself, and in
: mortal combat!

Actually, in Tempus Irae, the Pfhor do use the marine's pattern to create an adversarial AI that anticipates his actions.

We've been through the issue of pattern buffers before. What Bungie briefly says they do in M1 and M2 and what actually happens from the player's standpoint are two different things. If a pattern buffer actually replicated the marine after he dies, he would find everything as it was when he died, with dead bodies everywhere, including his own. I think that the basic conclusion of the forum is that pattern buffers facilitate mental time travel. When the marine dies, his memories are somehow conveyed back in time to the point when he last accessed a pattern buffer. As one person put it, imagine walking up to a pattern buffer and downloading the memories of your deaths in several different alternate future scenarios.

: And what if all Pfhor used pattern buffers? SHIT! What if someone
: found the Pfhor patternbuffers with Pfhor patterns a
: thousand years after their defeat, and made an army of Pfhor?!!

It's not clear one way or the other whether the Pfhor or S'pht use pattern buffers. That they have them suggests that they might but, again, the forum has more or less concluded that the pattern buffer is only part of the equation. We believe that what allows the marine to send his memories back in time is his cybernetic implants. That's why we don't see plain old Bobs being reincarnated as such, and imagine the confusion of time lines if multiple beings could rewrite the future at will. Anyway, if the Pfhor do use pattern buffers, it wouldn't serve as a means of cloning them. From everything we've seen, however, the Pfhor seem to do a good job of this without pattern buffers.

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"Leela got what she deserved, and so will you."darky 2/15/02 6:41 a.m.
     Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.zudo 2/15/02 8:00 a.m.
           Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Hamish Sinclair 2/17/02 11:23 a.m.
                 Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Tycho7en 2/17/02 12:23 p.m.
                       Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Hamish Sinclair 2/17/02 12:47 p.m.
                             A qestion of free willSteve Levinson 2/17/02 1:19 p.m.
                                   Re: A qestion of free willPedrof 2/17/02 4:53 p.m.
                                         Re: A qestion of free willarchon 2/17/02 9:13 p.m.
                                         Re: A qestion of free willdarky 2/18/02 2:44 p.m.
                                   Re: A qestion of free willTru7h 2/17/02 5:16 p.m.
                                   Re: A qestion of free willCallie21V 2/17/02 9:23 p.m.
                                         Re: A qestion of free willPedrof 2/18/02 10:39 a.m.
                                               Re: A qestion of free willSteve Levinson 2/18/02 12:19 p.m.
                                                     Re: A qestion of free willPedrof 2/18/02 2:42 p.m.
                             Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Tycho7en 2/17/02 10:55 p.m.
                                   Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you. *NM*Tycho7en 2/17/02 11:11 p.m.
                                   Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Steve Levinson 2/18/02 6:22 p.m.
                                         Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Tycho7en 2/19/02 9:39 a.m.
                 Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.zudo 2/18/02 9:36 a.m.
     Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Callie21V 2/15/02 6:57 p.m.
           Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Alfred Mordeir 2/15/02 7:48 p.m.
                 Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Karl Boman 2/17/02 11:05 a.m.
                       Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Hamish Sinclair 2/17/02 11:27 a.m.
                             Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Boomer 2/18/02 2:37 p.m.
                                   Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.zudo 2/18/02 4:13 p.m.
                                         Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Boomer 2/18/02 5:07 p.m.
                                               Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Boomer 2/18/02 5:17 p.m.
                                                     Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Boomer 2/18/02 5:19 p.m.
                                                           Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.zudo 2/19/02 10:10 a.m.
                                                           Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Tru7h 2/19/02 2:54 p.m.
                                                                 Duck and Cover! ;) *NM*zudo 2/19/02 3:45 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Duck and Cover! ;)Pedrof 2/19/02 3:57 p.m.
                                                                 Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Boomer 2/19/02 5:02 p.m.
                                                                       Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Tru7h 2/19/02 8:38 p.m.
                                                                             Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Callie21V 2/19/02 9:44 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Boomer 2/20/02 5:18 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.archon 2/20/02 9:18 a.m.
                                                                             Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Boomer 2/20/02 5:30 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Pedrof 2/20/02 6:43 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Boomer 2/20/02 6:53 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Boomer 2/20/02 7:00 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.archon 2/20/02 9:20 a.m.
                                                                                                     Cloning using Pattern BuffersSteve Levinson 2/20/02 9:39 a.m.
                                                                                                           Brain....melting....*screams* *NM*Pedrof 2/20/02 10:18 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.zudo 2/21/02 8:49 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: "Leela got what she deserved, and so will you.Steve Levinson 2/20/02 9:42 a.m.
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