Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom


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Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom

Posted By: Steve Levinson Date: 3/22/05 10:15 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom (Andrew Nagy)

Gees, Yoss, you sure went back a ways to catch up with old posts. This topic is of particular interest to me now because I've just gotten around to playing Halo for the first time. An X-Box has never been an option for me - not the way my wife hates it when I play video games. At least with my PowerBook, I can put on a pair of headphones (which I wear often to listen to music, anyway) and play to my heart's content when she's not in the room. I put off buying the Mac version of Halo when I read all the reports about how poorly it played, even on G5's, but now that I have a suped-up 17" PB, I thought I'd give it a try. I've been pleasantly surprised with how the game handles - the graphics run very smoothly - better than AO - proving once again that adequate RAM and a good graphics card are far more important that raw CPU processing power.
OK down to the real purpose of this post. I will have a lot more to say about Halo 1 when I've finished it - I'm only on level 3 or so - but Bungie has clearly catered to the masses. Marathon was a very sophisticated game - mature in story development and integration and logically sequenced. Halo has superb graphics, but I really miss the Marathon terminals. Without the terminals, with only a superficial story, Halo feels like just another FPS. There are other things I could nitpick on - I terribly miss map view - it's very easy to get lost - but the loss of the story element is the worst of it. I am having fun, however ;^).
The other thing of interest I will revisit when I finish Halo, but I am struck by the similarities to Marathon. I think this is the thrust of your post. I'ts not that Halo has a lot of tie-ins to Marathon, but Halo really is Marathon in many respects. I think that in many respects Halo is the result of porting the basic concept of Marathon to a modern engine, streamlining the story for the masses and adding new, cool features. I guess that dumbing down Marathon was the right thing to do - one need only look at sales figures - but those of use who cut our teeth on Marathon know what could have been.
More later . . .

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: Gees, Yoss, you sure went back a ways to catch up with old posts. This topic : is of particular interest to me now because I've just gotten around to : playing Halo for the first time. An X-Box has never been an option for me : - not the way my wife hates it when I play video games. At least with my : PowerBook, I can put on a pair of headphones (which I wear often to listen : to music, anyway) and play to my heart's content when she's not in the : room. I put off buying the Mac version of Halo when I read all the reports : about how poorly it played, even on G5's, but now that I have a suped-up : 17" PB, I thought I'd give it a try. I've been pleasantly surprised : with how the game handles - the graphics run very smoothly - better than : AO - proving once again that adequate RAM and a good graphics card are far : more important that raw CPU processing power. : OK down to the real purpose of this post. I will have a lot more to say about : Halo 1 when I've finished it - I'm only on level 3 or so - but Bungie has : clearly catered to the masses. Marathon was a very sophisticated game - : mature in story development and integration and logically sequenced. Halo : has superb graphics, but I really miss the Marathon terminals. Without the : terminals, with only a superficial story, Halo feels like just another : FPS. There are other things I could nitpick on - I terribly miss map view : - it's very easy to get lost - but the loss of the story element is the : worst of it. I am having fun, however ;^). : The other thing of interest I will revisit when I finish Halo, but I am : struck by the similarities to Marathon. I think this is the thrust of your : post. I'ts not that Halo has a lot of tie-ins to Marathon, but Halo really : is Marathon in many respects. I think that in many respects Halo is the : result of porting the basic concept of Marathon to a modern engine, : streamlining the story for the masses and adding new, cool features. I : guess that dumbing down Marathon was the right thing to do - one need only : look at sales figures - but those of use who cut our teeth on Marathon : know what could have been. : More later . . .

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Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me out	Vid Boi	11/3/04 5:29 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Bob-B-Q	11/3/04 6:10 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Andromeda_5[Kilo]	11/4/04 11:43 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Vid Boi	11/4/04 1:11 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Bob-B-Q	11/5/04 4:34 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Vid Boi	11/5/04 12:59 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Bob-B-Q	11/6/04 5:26 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Andrew Nagy	11/6/04 7:01 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Bob-B-Q	11/6/04 9:28 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Andromeda_5[Kilo]	11/9/04 4:18 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Andrew Nagy	11/19/04 2:08 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Bob-B-Q	11/19/04 2:14 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	sd	11/3/04 6:52 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	D-M.A.	11/3/04 9:10 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Anaphiel	11/4/04 2:06 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	ukimalefu	11/4/04 4:44 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Anaphiel	11/5/04 3:03 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Anaphiel	11/5/04 3:05 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	K-chi	11/5/04 8:12 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Anaphiel	11/6/04 2:52 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	D-M.A.	11/6/04 5:30 a.m.
I beg to differ.	K-chi	11/6/04 7:34 a.m.
Re: I beg to differ.	Jacke	11/6/04 10:00 a.m.
correctamundo	Anaphiel	11/6/04 10:09 a.m.
Re: correctamundo	K-chi	11/6/04 1:05 p.m.
Intellectual Property	Forrest of B.org	11/7/04 12:42 a.m.
Woah!	K-chi	11/7/04 6:31 a.m.
Re: Intellectual Property	Yossarian	11/7/04 10:27 a.m.
Re: correctamundo	Vid Boi	11/7/04 4:00 a.m.
Re: correctamundo	K-chi	11/7/04 6:34 a.m.
Re: correctamundo	Jacke	11/7/04 7:26 a.m.
Re: I beg to differ.	D-M.A.	11/6/04 12:12 p.m.
Re: I beg to differ.	ukimalefu	11/7/04 3:26 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	K-chi	11/4/04 5:22 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Siphonopho	11/4/04 6:55 a.m.
Definitely the Vogel ones!	thermoplyae	11/5/04 3:06 p.m.
Hey, Hamish...	Vid Boi	11/4/04 11:43 a.m.
Re: Hey, Hamish...	Johannes Gunnar	11/5/04 11:21 a.m.
Re: Hey, Hamish...	Andrew Nagy	11/5/04 11:50 a.m.
Hang on...	Hamish Sinclair	11/7/04 5:31 a.m.
Re: Hang on...	Adam Ashwell	11/7/04 6:00 a.m.
Re: Hang on...	blake37	11/7/04 6:06 a.m.
Re: Hang on...	D-M.A.	11/7/04 6:20 a.m.
Re: Hang on...	Mark Levin	11/7/04 1:43 p.m.
Re: Hang on...	blake37	11/8/04 10:34 a.m.
Also!	Vid Boi	11/4/04 1:11 p.m.
Re: Also!	Andrew Nagy	11/4/04 1:57 p.m.
Re: Also!	AfroRyan	11/4/04 2:11 p.m.
PID? The Colony? Ultima Underworld? NM	Andrew Nagy	11/4/04 5:08 p.m.
Re: Also!	HamburgerBoy	11/4/04 6:20 p.m.
And player helping NPC's. (BOB's) NM	Mista_B	11/4/04 8:54 p.m.
Bobs in 1995, MADDs and S'pht in 1994 NM	Andrew Nagy	11/4/04 8:55 p.m.
Re: Also!	Andrew Nagy	11/4/04 8:54 p.m.
Re: Also!	Vid Boi	11/5/04 12:41 a.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Druff	11/5/04 2:12 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Andrew Nagy	11/5/04 4:53 p.m.
Re: Marathon 10th anniversary coming up, help me o	Forrest of B.org	11/5/04 6:51 p.m.
Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	Andrew Nagy	11/5/04 7:53 p.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	Andrew Nagy	3/21/05 9:25 p.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	Steve Levinson	3/22/05 10:15 a.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	H.A.L unit 9000	3/22/05 2:56 p.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	Yossarian	3/22/05 5:21 p.m.
Oops - time to get new glasses? NM	Steve Levinson	3/22/05 6:49 p.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	Anaphiel	3/23/05 1:37 a.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	Vid Boi	3/23/05 3:24 a.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	Bob-B-Q	3/23/05 7:14 a.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	Duality	3/23/05 1:55 p.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	Bob-B-Q	3/23/05 3:45 p.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	Blayne	3/28/05 9:42 a.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	duality	3/29/05 1:29 p.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	duality	3/29/05 1:30 p.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	K-chi	3/29/05 4:20 p.m.
Re: Marathon vs Halo vs Doom	Yossarian	3/29/05 7:22 p.m.
Sounds Nar-ish to me... NM	Bob-B-Q	3/30/05 11:59 a.m.



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	Message: : Gees, Yoss, you sure went back a ways to catch up with old posts. This topic : is of particular interest to me now because I've just gotten around to : playing Halo for the first time. An X-Box has never been an option for me : - not the way my wife hates it when I play video games. At least with my : PowerBook, I can put on a pair of headphones (which I wear often to listen : to music, anyway) and play to my heart's content when she's not in the : room. I put off buying the Mac version of Halo when I read all the reports : about how poorly it played, even on G5's, but now that I have a suped-up : 17" PB, I thought I'd give it a try. I've been pleasantly surprised : with how the game handles - the graphics run very smoothly - better than : AO - proving once again that adequate RAM and a good graphics card are far : more important that raw CPU processing power. : OK down to the real purpose of this post. I will have a lot more to say about : Halo 1 when I've finished it - I'm only on level 3 or so - but Bungie has : clearly catered to the masses. Marathon was a very sophisticated game - : mature in story development and integration and logically sequenced. Halo : has superb graphics, but I really miss the Marathon terminals. Without the : terminals, with only a superficial story, Halo feels like just another : FPS. There are other things I could nitpick on - I terribly miss map view : - it's very easy to get lost - but the loss of the story element is the : worst of it. I am having fun, however ;^). : The other thing of interest I will revisit when I finish Halo, but I am : struck by the similarities to Marathon. I think this is the thrust of your : post. I'ts not that Halo has a lot of tie-ins to Marathon, but Halo really : is Marathon in many respects. I think that in many respects Halo is the : result of porting the basic concept of Marathon to a modern engine, : streamlining the story for the masses and adding new, cool features. I : guess that dumbing down Marathon was the right thing to do - one need only : look at sales figures - but those of use who cut our teeth on Marathon : know what could have been. : More later . . .
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