Zeus Durandal/Cortana? (Warning: Crazy Ideas)


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Zeus Durandal/Cortana? (Warning: Crazy Ideas)

Posted By: rampancy Date: 7/23/04 4:57 p.m.
In Response To: New Cortana Letters Now Online? (Enkidu)

Some various things popped out at me when I did a cursory perusal of the Bees site:
• The Myth of the Bees:
..."Wise and powerful is Almighty Zeus!" said the Queen Bee.
"Grant me, I pray you, a poison sting, so that when the humans
come to steal my honey, I may kill them."...
Zeus was angry then, for he loved the race of men, but he could not break his promise. "You shall have your poison," he said, his brow like thunder. "But to use it will cost you your life. If you plunge your sting into the flesh of humankind, there it will stay, and you will die from the loss of it."...
With a Bungie context in mind, I immediately thought of Cortana and Durandal; just like the Queen Bee, both make an "appeal" to a "higher power" to fight an overwhelming evil: Cortana brings the Master Chief to the Halo to hopefully find something that the Forerunners left behind to use against the Covenant. Durandal brings The Marine to L'howon to hopefully find something that the Jjaro left behind to use against the Pfhor. The female imagery however would suit Cortana more, but as Durandal himself noted in M2, it's possible to mistake his gender, as Charlemagne did...
"...And the moral of the story is: evil wishes come home to roost."
This reminds me of the mysterious back story surrounding the relationship between Durandal and Bernhard Strauss, and the placing of the Battleroids on board the Marathon. Just like the various mysterious goings-on behind the scenes in Halo, there's a sense that something's going on here below the surface which isn't benevolent. With Durandal, the Marathon, and the Battleroids, it's the "back-stabbing politics" back on Earth (involving the MIDA?)...with Cortana, it may have something to do with Dr. Halsey and ONI. There's a conspiracy back on Earth that's being alluded to here, with something done with bad intentions that's backfired. Going back to Marathon, I though of Durandal's crazed "i did it i brough them here" message from M1...maybe Durandal was supposed to call the Pfhor to Tau Ceti in the hopes that the conspirators (most likely MIDA) could use them as allies to conquer Earth, but it horribly backfired.
Oh, and there's the reference to Zeus, also the namesake of our favorite fusion-based weapon.
Someone also posted this to Dana's blog: "30 hornets vs 30,000 bees" -- I don't know if hornets in smaller numbers can take down a nest of bees (is difference in their venom?), but those kinds of odds remind me of the the Marine facing down the Pfhor -- or the UNSC and the Master Chief facing down the Covenant.
Anyway, sorry for the long post. Seeing all this has set my mind all racing...

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New Cortana Letters Now Online? Enkidu 7/23/04 8:49 a.m.

Re: Phasmidia Elegans (Halo-related) •M 7/23/04 10:14 a.m.

Re: Phasmidia Elegans (Halo-related) Adam Ashwell 7/23/04 10:39 a.m.

Re: Phasmidia Elegans (Halo-related) Adam Ashwell 7/23/04 10:44 a.m.

Re: Mayday - [long] •M 7/23/04 10:55 a.m.

note to self, skip pre-tag, bash head *NM* •M 7/23/04 10:58 a.m.

Re: curiouser and more curiouser •M 7/24/04 12:08 a.m.

Re: Slashdotted •M 7/24/04 10:56 p.m.

Re: curiouser and more curiouser a disreputable source 7/25/04 11:21 a.m.

Re: curiouser and more curiouser •M 7/25/04 11:33 a.m.

by "!" you mean "on fire"? *NM* Anonymous Coward 01 7/25/04 11:31 a.m.

Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online? Enkidu 7/23/04 10:43 a.m.

Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online? AfroRyan 7/23/04 10:55 a.m.

Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online? AfroRyan 7/23/04 11:09 a.m.

Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online? Yossarian 7/23/04 11:10 a.m.

Wayback? Google Cache? How long's it been there? *NM* a disreputable source 7/23/04 11:29 a.m.

Re: Wayback? Google Cache? How long's it been ther Mark Levin 7/23/04 12:07 p.m.

This puzzle goes beyond the Bungie community. Skeletor 7/23/04 2:41 p.m.

This isn't the first time this has happened... rampancy 7/23/04 4:30 p.m.

Indeed... Jacke 7/24/04 1:50 a.m.

Zeus Durandal/Cortana? (Warning: Crazy Ideas) rampancy 7/23/04 4:57 p.m.

Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online? deathmonger 7/23/04 7:02 p.m.

Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online? deathmonger 7/23/04 7:20 p.m.

Ooh, Good Point! *NM* Bob-B-Q 7/24/04 2:39 a.m.

Probably not... Enkidu 7/24/04 3:19 a.m.

This is important to me... ukimalefu 7/24/04 8:47 a.m.

and this... ukimalefu 7/24/04 8:55 a.m.

Re: This is important to me... Enkidu 7/24/04 9:20 a.m.

Bugger, forgot something... Enkidu 7/24/04 9:30 a.m.

Re: This is important to me... ukimalefu 7/25/04 9:10 a.m.

Re: This is important to me... Vid Boi 7/24/04 11:28 a.m.

Re: This is important to me... AfroRyan 7/31/04 3:43 p.m.

Re: This is important to me... Enkidu 8/1/04 9:04 a.m.

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: Some various things popped out at me when I did a cursory perusal of the Bees : site: • The Myth of the Bees: ..."Wise and powerful is Almighty : Zeus!" said the Queen Bee. : "Grant me, I pray you, a poison sting, so that when the humans : come to steal my honey, I may kill them."... : Zeus was angry then, for he loved the race of men, but he could not break his : promise. "You shall have your poison," he said, his brow like : thunder. "But to use it will cost you your life. If you plunge your : sting into the flesh of humankind, there it will stay, and you will die : from the loss of it."... : With a Bungie context in mind, I immediately thought of Cortana and Durandal; : just like the Queen Bee, both make an "appeal" to a "higher : power" to fight an overwhelming evil: Cortana brings the Master Chief : to the Halo to hopefully find something that the Forerunners left behind : to use against the Covenant. Durandal brings The Marine to L'howon to : hopefully find something that the Jjaro left behind to use against the : Pfhor. The female imagery however would suit Cortana more, but as Durandal : himself noted in M2, it's possible to mistake his gender, as Charlemagne : did... : "...And the moral of the story is: evil wishes come home to roost." : This reminds me of the mysterious back story surrounding the relationship : between Durandal and Bernhard Strauss, and the placing of the Battleroids : on board the Marathon. Just like the various mysterious goings-on behind : the scenes in Halo, there's a sense that something's going on here below : the surface which isn't benevolent. With Durandal, the Marathon, and the : Battleroids, it's the "back-stabbing politics" back on Earth : (involving the MIDA?)...with Cortana, it may have something to do with Dr. : Halsey and ONI. There's a conspiracy back on Earth that's being alluded to : here, with something done with bad intentions that's backfired. Going back : to Marathon, I though of Durandal's crazed "i did it i brough them : here" message from M1...maybe Durandal was supposed to call the Pfhor : to Tau Ceti in the hopes that the conspirators (most likely MIDA) could : use them as allies to conquer Earth, but it horribly backfired. : Oh, and there's the reference to Zeus, also the namesake of our favorite : fusion-based weapon. : Someone also posted this to Dana's blog: "30 hornets vs 30,000 : bees" -- I don't know if hornets in smaller numbers can take down a : nest of bees (is difference in their venom?), but those kinds of odds : remind me of the the Marine facing down the Pfhor -- or the UNSC and the : Master Chief facing down the Covenant. : Anyway, sorry for the long post. Seeing all this has set my mind all : racing...

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New Cortana Letters Now Online?	Enkidu	7/23/04 8:49 a.m.
Re: Phasmidia Elegans (Halo-related)	•M	7/23/04 10:14 a.m.
Re: Phasmidia Elegans (Halo-related)	Adam Ashwell	7/23/04 10:39 a.m.
Re: Phasmidia Elegans (Halo-related)	Adam Ashwell	7/23/04 10:44 a.m.
Re: Mayday - [long]	•M	7/23/04 10:55 a.m.
note to self, skip pre-tag, bash head NM	•M	7/23/04 10:58 a.m.
Re: curiouser and more curiouser	•M	7/24/04 12:08 a.m.
Re: Slashdotted	•M	7/24/04 10:56 p.m.
Re: curiouser and more curiouser	a disreputable source	7/25/04 11:21 a.m.
Re: curiouser and more curiouser	•M	7/25/04 11:33 a.m.
by "!" you mean "on fire"? NM	Anonymous Coward 01	7/25/04 11:31 a.m.
Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online?	Enkidu	7/23/04 10:43 a.m.
Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online?	AfroRyan	7/23/04 10:55 a.m.
Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online?	AfroRyan	7/23/04 11:09 a.m.
Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online?	Yossarian	7/23/04 11:10 a.m.
Wayback? Google Cache? How long's it been there? NM	a disreputable source	7/23/04 11:29 a.m.
Re: Wayback? Google Cache? How long's it been ther	Mark Levin	7/23/04 12:07 p.m.
This puzzle goes beyond the Bungie community.	Skeletor	7/23/04 2:41 p.m.
This isn't the first time this has happened...	rampancy	7/23/04 4:30 p.m.
Indeed...	Jacke	7/24/04 1:50 a.m.
Zeus Durandal/Cortana? (Warning: Crazy Ideas)	rampancy	7/23/04 4:57 p.m.
Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online?	deathmonger	7/23/04 7:02 p.m.
Re: New Cortana Letters Now Online?	deathmonger	7/23/04 7:20 p.m.
Ooh, Good Point! NM	Bob-B-Q	7/24/04 2:39 a.m.
Probably not...	Enkidu	7/24/04 3:19 a.m.
This is important to me...	ukimalefu	7/24/04 8:47 a.m.
and this...	ukimalefu	7/24/04 8:55 a.m.
Re: This is important to me...	Enkidu	7/24/04 9:20 a.m.
Bugger, forgot something...	Enkidu	7/24/04 9:30 a.m.
Re: This is important to me...	ukimalefu	7/25/04 9:10 a.m.
Re: This is important to me...	Vid Boi	7/24/04 11:28 a.m.
Re: This is important to me...	AfroRyan	7/31/04 3:43 p.m.
Re: This is important to me...	Enkidu	8/1/04 9:04 a.m.



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