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Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon

Posted By: Ernie Date: 3/20/04 2:32 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon (Yossarian)

Regarding the Jjaro:
: Did they really disappear? Remember PID, and are you considering THAT Marathon canon?
Yes, I'm considering that Canon. However, the Jjaro that visited in PiD was a Hologram, that was much on the level of Toth, or some other A.I construct. Not the actual Jjaro.
Although the line blends in the Mara-universe between the Jjaro that have become "Eternals" .... (as Forrest refers to them, Jjaro that have from whatever timeline or species that have transcended the physical universe via some understructure of the universe, like Durandal is always trying to do) .... and that of Jjaro AI's that can travel into/effect networks.
Thus, to sum up my argument: Yes, they did disapear but I did say they left technology and data behind - that includes AI's (Holograms in this instance) in PiD.
Good info about the Pfhor. I'll try to work it into the terminal.
Regarding ym bit on the Nar: I'm going from my knowledge of them from the Storypage and Forrest's description of them I've read. Apparently it's inferred that they are privateers in Marathon 2.
: I think its a bit contradictory to claim they are privateers but also how it
: is uncertain how they obtain their technology.
To say it's contradictory is a valid point, given I think I need more clarification of the issue here. I'm trying to say that the Nar are privateers, but it's unknown (due to their backwards nature) how they EVER managed to capture ANY vessel, let alone travel into space to do so.

: Okay, there are three U's in Marathon: UEG (United Earth Government)
: UESC (United Earth Space Council)
: UESG (United Earth Space Government)
Good breakdown of the governmental bodies.
Regarding UNSC, etc. : If you can't tell, I'm trying to mesh components of the Halo universe with that of Marathon. Of course, this could cause issues. There exists many time line descrepancies between the two - but they at one point had a common source. The split may have occured before the time of PiD (maybe the sleeping God (W'kr) didn't crash on Earth in what became the Halo alternate timeline/universe.
But to actually address the UNSC, etc bit included in my Terminal there:
I don't think the United Nations would simply give up it's name/control over world affairs to a governmental body like the UEG without a period of transition.
There would be a historical/formal transition from "United Nations", to an "United Earth". Simultaneous transformations would occur with UNSC -to- UESC and UNSG to UESG.
That may be way out there, but I like to make some additions/flesh out detial to the marathon universe with WMaiD. This Terminal is an History/public history terminal. People of the future would remember the transitions, even in an foggy, pop culture sort of way.

: I think everything else is pretty sharp. Hope this helps.
: Yossarian.
It does! Thanks. If you can pick appart my explanations, please do. I'm also looking forward to those submissions to the MaraFF.
: )

-Ernie

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Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon Ernie 3/19/04 6:37 p.m.

Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon Adam Ashwell 3/19/04 6:53 p.m.

Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon Yossarian 3/19/04 7:47 p.m.

Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon Ernie 3/20/04 2:32 p.m.

Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon Yossarian 3/20/04 11:04 p.m.

Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon deathmonger 3/21/04 3:31 p.m.

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: Regarding the Jjaro: Yes, I'm considering that Canon. However, the Jjaro : that visited in PiD was a Hologram, that was much on the level of Toth, or : some other A.I construct. Not the actual Jjaro. : Although the line blends in the Mara-universe between the Jjaro that have : become "Eternals" .... (as Forrest refers to them, Jjaro that : have from whatever timeline or species that have transcended the physical : universe via some understructure of the universe, like Durandal is always : trying to do) .... and that of Jjaro AI's that can travel into/effect : networks. : Thus, to sum up my argument: Yes, they did disapear but I did say they left : technology and data behind - that includes AI's (Holograms in this : instance) in PiD. : Good info about the Pfhor. I'll try to work it into the terminal. : Regarding ym bit on the Nar: I'm going from my knowledge of them from the : Storypage and Forrest's description of them I've read. Apparently it's : inferred that they are privateers in Marathon 2. : To say it's contradictory is a valid point, given I think I need more : clarification of the issue here. I'm trying to say that the Nar are : privateers, but it's unknown (due to their backwards nature) how they EVER : managed to capture ANY vessel, let alone travel into space to do so. : : Good breakdown of the governmental bodies. : Regarding UNSC, etc. : If you can't tell, I'm trying to mesh components of : the Halo universe with that of Marathon. Of course, this could cause : issues. There exists many time line descrepancies between the two - but : they at one point had a common source. The split may have occured before : the time of PiD (maybe the sleeping God (W'kr) didn't crash on Earth in : what became the Halo alternate timeline/universe. : But to actually address the UNSC, etc bit included in my Terminal there: I : don't think the United Nations would simply give up it's name/control over : world affairs to a governmental body like the UEG without a period of : transition. : There would be a historical/formal transition from "United : Nations", to an "United Earth". Simultaneous : transformations would occur with UNSC -to- UESC and UNSG to UESG. : That may be way out there, but I like to make some additions/flesh out : detial to the marathon universe with WMaiD. This Terminal is an : History/public history terminal. People of the future would remember the : transitions, even in an foggy, pop culture sort of way. : : It does! Thanks. If you can pick appart my explanations, please do. I'm also : looking forward to those submissions to the MaraFF. : : ) : : -Ernie

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Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon	Ernie	3/19/04 6:37 p.m.
Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon	Adam Ashwell	3/19/04 6:53 p.m.
Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon	Yossarian	3/19/04 7:47 p.m.
Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon	Ernie	3/20/04 2:32 p.m.
Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon	Yossarian	3/20/04 11:04 p.m.
Re: Ernie wants YOU to clarify Marathon Canon	deathmonger	3/21/04 3:31 p.m.



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	Message: : Regarding the Jjaro: Yes, I'm considering that Canon. However, the Jjaro : that visited in PiD was a Hologram, that was much on the level of Toth, or : some other A.I construct. Not the actual Jjaro. : Although the line blends in the Mara-universe between the Jjaro that have : become "Eternals" .... (as Forrest refers to them, Jjaro that : have from whatever timeline or species that have transcended the physical : universe via some understructure of the universe, like Durandal is always : trying to do) .... and that of Jjaro AI's that can travel into/effect : networks. : Thus, to sum up my argument: Yes, they did disapear but I did say they left : technology and data behind - that includes AI's (Holograms in this : instance) in PiD. : Good info about the Pfhor. I'll try to work it into the terminal. : Regarding ym bit on the Nar: I'm going from my knowledge of them from the : Storypage and Forrest's description of them I've read. Apparently it's : inferred that they are privateers in Marathon 2. : To say it's contradictory is a valid point, given I think I need more : clarification of the issue here. I'm trying to say that the Nar are : privateers, but it's unknown (due to their backwards nature) how they EVER : managed to capture ANY vessel, let alone travel into space to do so. : : Good breakdown of the governmental bodies. : Regarding UNSC, etc. : If you can't tell, I'm trying to mesh components of : the Halo universe with that of Marathon. Of course, this could cause : issues. There exists many time line descrepancies between the two - but : they at one point had a common source. The split may have occured before : the time of PiD (maybe the sleeping God (W'kr) didn't crash on Earth in : what became the Halo alternate timeline/universe. : But to actually address the UNSC, etc bit included in my Terminal there: I : don't think the United Nations would simply give up it's name/control over : world affairs to a governmental body like the UEG without a period of : transition. : There would be a historical/formal transition from "United : Nations", to an "United Earth". Simultaneous : transformations would occur with UNSC -to- UESC and UNSG to UESG. : That may be way out there, but I like to make some additions/flesh out : detial to the marathon universe with WMaiD. This Terminal is an : History/public history terminal. People of the future would remember the : transitions, even in an foggy, pop culture sort of way. : : It does! Thanks. If you can pick appart my explanations, please do. I'm also : looking forward to those submissions to the MaraFF. : : ) : : -Ernie
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