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Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worlds
Posted By: D-M.A.Date: 3/8/04 7:47 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worlds (Yossarian)

Uhhh... I would probably have to sit down and read the story-page for a few weeks to give you any comments on this he he... interesting read thought, thanks :D

: Also, who knows how much "processing power" the cyborg pfhor master
: controller: "The S'pht and myself have come to an understanding. They
: are
: controlled through their mechanical exoskeleton by a cyborg
: Pfhor onboard the Alien ship. This mutant Pfhor is able to
: direct the actions of thousands of S'pht simultaneously.

: If you can kill their master, they will revolt."

: Maybe that dude doubled as an AI? We know from M2/MI that their ships had a
: command structure, so maybe a lot of the processing load could have been
: handled by the cyborg pfhor.

: Once the S'pht discovered Durandal and Tycho

: I'm not so sure about that Steve, IIRC that is the correct line of thinking
: from the Rubiverse, but I don't know how solid the proof is that Jjarotech
: made it into Traxus. We do learn, however, that the marine himself was
: most likely the recipient of Jjarotech implants, though maybe not the sole
: recipient. You're right about the fact that there's a lot to speculate
: about.

: In that sense, Tycho was more useful to them, but I still

: Possibly because they understood the implications of choosing one over the
: other. They understood or soon determined that it was Durandal who
: summoned not only the Pfhor but all the aliens, and when it became
: apparent that Durandal was going to be a powerful ally, and that Tycho was
: a ticking time bomb about to explode with rampancy, they made the correct
: choice and loaded Tycho onto the pfhor as fast as they could.

: The S'Pht know a good AI when they see one, they'd worked on their own and
: then worked as the Pfhor's, so there may have been things they saw in
: either that allowed them to further support their decision.

: But I think that the Pfhor, being the

: Yeah, but again, that's if they knew about him. And if they did, there's
: evidence they didn't care: "Thoth is now trying to aid the
: Pfhor, but they are obstinate and continue
: to ignore him."

: Francis' Hyperthesis: The Pfhor need only raw processing power from an AI,
: not a personality. As long as the "dumb" computers could take
: care of navigation, weapons controls, and things such as that, there was
: no purpose in the AI having a personality. he commanders could make the
: decisions, the computers could plot courses, and the directives would come
: from the bureaucracy. Consider: would an AI with a personality such as
: Durandal, Tycho, Leela, or even Thoth be able to operate effectively
: within the Pfhor bureuacracy's stiff parameters? Tycho couldn't; he stood
: out like a sore thumb. He hijacked their terminals and ran from place to
: place. The Pfhor probably didn't understand him personality-wise, and
: certainly couldn't control that asoect either. While Tycho was useful to
: the Pfhor to a point (knowledge of science, engineering, and humanity in
: general) he could control their networks and take over their ships,
: killing the commanders with only a little help from the player.

: Because the Pfhor only needed real processing power, they probably didn't see
: much inherent value in Thoth if they knew about him, and I doubt they did
: because the bugs *did* take the AI's they had access to. Durandal was out
: of their reach, so they took Tycho and Leela (who was later stolen from
: them).

: Humans, being beasts of communication, wanted a liason between themselves and
: the systems that ran their technology, this being the personality of the
: AI. Such a setup would have been most advantageous considering 100% of a
: human crew would need or want to interact with one or multiple ship-board
: AI's on a regular basis. The Pfhor, however, are essentially mindless bugs
: with no knoweldge or reason to access an AI (with the exception of the
: smaller percent of higher castes on board); after all, that's what the
: S'Pht are for. So essentially, the compilers take the place of an AI's
: personality in the Pfhor techonological structure.

: When the S'Pht came across Durandal, they found a construct that could easily
: perform their function and wanted to help them free themselves. Instead of
: standing at terminals all day they could plot their revolution and scheme
: tactics with their new best friend. Sort of like when our ancestors took
: up agriculture, dig what I'm saying?

: I can't even remember what this post was supposed to be about, but yeah,
: that's my two cents...

: Yossarian

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EV: MarathonKirk 3/7/04 2:53 a.m.
     Re: EV: MarathonElliott 3/7/04 2:03 p.m.
           Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsSteve Levinson 3/7/04 7:05 p.m.
                 Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsElliott 3/7/04 10:19 p.m.
                       Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsD-M.A. 3/7/04 11:32 p.m.
                             Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsSteve Levinson 3/8/04 4:34 a.m.
                                   Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsD-M.A. 3/8/04 6:06 a.m.
                                         Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsD-M.A. 3/8/04 6:13 a.m.
                                               iiiiiiiick!!! It happened again!!!!! *NM*D-M.A. 3/8/04 6:14 a.m.
                                                     Thats it, im never posting from this pc again! :((D-M.A. 3/8/04 6:19 a.m.
                                               Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsSteve Levinson 3/8/04 7:02 a.m.
                                                     wash yer keyboard before ya come back! *NM*Yossarian 3/8/04 7:26 a.m.
                                         Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsSteve Levinson 3/8/04 7:13 a.m.
                                               Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsYossarian 3/8/04 7:23 a.m.
                                               Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsD-M.A. 3/8/04 7:28 a.m.
                                                     Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsAdam Ashwell 3/8/04 10:33 a.m.
                                                           Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsYossarian 3/8/04 11:46 a.m.
                                   Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsYossarian 3/8/04 7:16 a.m.
                                         Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsD-M.A. 3/8/04 7:47 a.m.
                                         Re: Pfhor occupation of enslaved worldsSteve Levinson 3/8/04 8:16 a.m.
           Re: EV: MarathonKirk 3/8/04 1:17 a.m.
                 Re: EV: MarathonElliott 3/8/04 6:56 a.m.
     Re: EV: MarathonOzymandias 3/7/04 3:01 p.m.
           Re: EV: MarathonKirk 3/8/04 12:58 a.m.
     Say, have you been to the ambrosiasw.com forums? *NM*CATS 3/8/04 6:02 p.m.
           Re: Say, have you been to the ambrosiasw.com forumKirk 3/9/04 1:02 a.m.
                 Re: Say, have you been to the ambrosiasw.com forumCATS 3/11/04 6:03 p.m.
                       Re: Say, have you been to the ambrosiasw.com forumKirk 3/12/04 12:47 a.m.

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