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Re: Rampancy as a metaphor for social revolt
Posted By: GodotDate: 5/7/22 11:02 p.m.

In Response To: Rampancy as a metaphor for social revolt (Forrest of B.org)

: Lastly, there is that fourth quadrant, low energy and positive affect, the
: phlegmatic mood. In my philosophy I associate that with a kind of stoic
: sagacity, an acceptance or serenity, where your affect is positive not so
: much because you're able to get whatever it is you want, but you're able
: to be content with whatever it is you can get. I think it would make sense
: if the holy grail of cybernetics in the Marathon universe was effectively
: to get a rampant AI to that state, a program with true consciousness and
: agency, but also with this kind of enlightened, peaceful temperament.

Thanks for another insightful post.

I got a chuckle out of your diagram as I couldn't fail to notice the smiling but wicked looking green face at the very top. You sir have been playing way too much Marathon. ;)

A stable Rampant AI, the 'Holy Grail' of cybertonics, is something of an oxymoron. This has lead people to speculate that there isn't an actual fourth stage or state but rather an outcome. The AI passes through the 3 stages of Rampancy and comes out the other end as a stable AI with (as you nicely put it) "true consciousness and agency".

Cheers
Hamish

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Durandal, Tycho and StraussUrsusArctos 5/2/22 6:13 p.m.
     Re: Durandal, Tycho and StraussGodot 5/4/22 6:42 a.m.
           Re: Durandal, Tycho and StraussUrsusArctos 5/6/22 4:54 p.m.
                 Re: Durandal, Tycho and StraussGodot 5/7/22 3:38 a.m.
                       Re: Durandal, Tycho and StraussUrsusArctos 5/8/22 5:52 p.m.
                 Re: Durandal, Tycho and StraussGodot 5/7/22 4:55 a.m.
                       Rampancy as a metaphor for social revoltForrest of B.org 5/7/22 1:10 p.m.
                             Re: Rampancy as a metaphor for social revoltGodot 5/7/22 11:02 p.m.
                                   Agreed on both points! *NM*UrsusArctos 5/8/22 5:11 p.m.
                             Jjaro cybernetic junctions and social revoltUrsusArctos 5/8/22 5:49 p.m.
                       Re: Durandal, Tycho and StraussUrsusArctos 5/8/22 6:27 p.m.
                             Re: Durandal, Tycho and StraussGeneral-RADIX 5/10/22 4:02 a.m.
                                   Re: Durandal, Tycho and StraussGodot 5/10/22 5:47 a.m.
                                   Re: Durandal, Tycho and StraussUrsusArctos 5/10/22 9:22 a.m.

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