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Re: Gotta catch 'em all!
Posted By: Cody MillerDate: 5/13/12 3:47 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Gotta catch 'em all! (Stephen L. (SoundEffect))


: The plain facts can't be ignored if you're creating content all in the same
: universe.

: 'Canon-ness' is wholly independent of whether you like it or not. Those in
: charge of said universe can veto things that shouldn't make it in. The
: information that does make it in is sanctioned by them (like it or not)
: and we are left with the concept of that universe's canon.

Who says that everything has to line up?

I witnessed a pretty bad landing accident a while ago, and was asked by the DZO to give my account of what I saw. Everything mostly lined up with what everybody else said (including the pilot), but everybody's version was just a little different, with small details varying.

The film Rashamon is perhaps one of the most famous examples of this in Film, where you have 3 wildly differing accounts of the death of a man, based on the interpretation of those who witnessed it.

There is this idea in fiction of the unreliable narrator. This is traditionally used in first or second person narration, and it's usually taken as a given that a 3rd person narrator is objective. In a sense though, the canon could simply be a collection of unreliable third person narrators.

This isn't that much of a stretch. Metal Gear Solid 3 has a third person 'narrator', but it is widely accepted to be an embellished, almost mythical retelling of Big Boss' actions. What we are seeing is not literally true in the sense of what actually happened.

It is not that much of a stretch to see the books and games as behaving the same way. The camera and written word need not be taken for absolute fact. Minor differences can simply be interpreted as an unreliable narrator.

Or you can just not care.


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                                   Re: Gotta catch 'em all!General Vagueness 5/13/12 10:46 a.m.
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                                               Re: Gotta catch 'em all!General Vagueness 5/13/12 11:39 a.m.
                                               Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Louis Wu 5/13/12 2:46 p.m.
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                                                                             Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Louis Wu 5/14/12 12:54 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Gotta catch 'em all!uberfoop 5/14/12 1:00 p.m.
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                                                                                         Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Louis Wu 5/14/12 4:54 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Quirel 5/14/12 5:15 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Louis Wu 5/14/12 6:01 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Cody Miller 5/14/12 11:30 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Gotta catch 'em all!CaneCutter 5/15/12 8:38 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Louis Wu 5/18/12 8:32 a.m.
                                                                                                                 This is scarily possible.Arithmomaniac 5/18/12 9:06 a.m.
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                                               Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Cody Miller 5/13/12 3:47 p.m.
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                                                                                                           Re: Gotta catch 'em all!General Vagueness 5/14/12 10:54 p.m.
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                             Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Quirel 5/13/12 1:40 a.m.
                                   Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Hawki 5/13/12 3:17 a.m.
                                         Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Quirel 5/16/12 1:17 a.m.
                                               Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Hawki 5/16/12 4:42 a.m.
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                                         Re: Gotta catch 'em all!Quirel 5/15/12 11:28 p.m.
           Why do you hate Bloodline so much anyways?TDSpiral 5/13/12 12:57 a.m.
                 Bingo. It's wretched in every sense.The Lionheart 5/13/12 3:22 a.m.



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