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Re: But CR = Idlers Paradise
Posted By: FyreWulff <mkidder@gmail.com>Date: 2/26/11 7:05 p.m.

In Response To: But CR = Idlers Paradise (sharpsniper99)


: Your a cool guy Fyrewulff, and I have a ton of mutual respect for you, that
: said when it comes to competitive Halo im sure you know my opinion differs
: from yours. :P

: I hate to break the mood, so I wont post too much about the actual rank
: system (I do disagree with what you said about the Arena blowing 1-50 out
: of the water). There are many reasons why The Arena could be
: underpopulated, personally I don't think Reach's game mechanics stand up
: to competitive play but other reasons which go directly against what you
: posted such as the fact it requires too much commitment and is a system
: that doesn't make too much sense are all reasons I have come across.
: Bungie have been making changes to the Arena to accommodate for this, and
: are even overhauling the system on Monday for these reasons.

I think everyone agreed it required too much commitment, and Bungie said as much, and I agree that it did. I often found myself unranked for the season from not having enough time to get ranked.

: I like the CR system, its fair that people who are interested in Firefight
: and Campaign can rank up and its awesome that everyone gets to reap the
: rewards of playing the game, but the CoD implementation is so much better.
: EXP earning in that game makes a lot more sense than the CR system in
: Reach which seems to spit out random amounts, as much as I think everyone
: should get CR win or lose - the guys who get more kills or even win
: deserve a decent bonus, as it stands the bonus is so minimal that people
: who AFK get around as much. Which brings me to my other point... the CR
: system has opened the floodgates to AFK'ers, goodbye black market, hello
: freeloaders.

The only random amount is the slot machine, which is intended as a little bonus for playing the game, and everyone in the game gets the same slot machine result, so the base level of credits for everyone is still the same. The players that got more kills, more headshots and more sprees still end up with more cR and a higher Game Complete bonus. Those of higher rank get more cR for game complete than lower ranks, but it's always the same. If you ever notice, finishing a custom gives you more and more cR the higher your rank goes.

Otherwise, it's exactly like CoD.. +X amount of cR for every instance of that action. The only difference is CoD ties this system to stuff like weapon unlocks and so on. Reach ties it to armor unlocking, which makes stuff like choosing to prestige in CoD pointless.

: Also introduce me to anyone that afk'ed and got carried to a 50 on Halo 3 and
: I will literally hand over all my goods to him. :P

Why do you find this impossible to occur? Have the customer join your lobby, with your gamertag at a certain rank. You and your 2 other highly skilled buddies proceed to play 3v4 against people well below your own rank. At the end of the game, all of you are submitted as beating the other team. But sure, I could go run a query and definitely a booster that took a customer to 50 without them having to play.

But even that is barely used now, as modders have found a way to get a 50 in one game by confusing the arbitration server. That method is very risky though, and can result in console ban instead of a gamertag ban.

Fun fact: the exact formula for Halo 2 50s was discovered. How? The account to be boosted simply had to lose their first game.. then you won them their next 110 games (exactly, and easy to do within an hour or two with modded maps/gametypes and bridging). They'd be a 50, regardless of the skill level of people in the game, due to a gigantic flaw in the formula.

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Replies:

Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orFyreWulff 2/26/11 3:25 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orPkmnrulz240 2/26/11 3:42 p.m.
     Excellent, excellent post *NM*mr_mcmurder 2/26/11 4:00 p.m.
     I agree with your opinion, good sir.snakegriffin 2/26/11 4:10 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orHyokin 2/26/11 4:14 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orZackDark 2/26/11 4:15 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orKalamariKidd 2/26/11 4:46 p.m.
     I don't play Arena...munky-058 2/26/11 4:54 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 5:00 p.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orGrimBrother One 2/26/11 5:05 p.m.
                 Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orLouis Wu 2/26/11 5:07 p.m.
                       Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 5:13 p.m.
                             Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDani 2/26/11 6:34 p.m.
                                   Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orFyreWulff 2/26/11 6:53 p.m.
                                   Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 7:02 p.m.
                                         Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDani 2/26/11 9:05 p.m.
                       Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orbluerunner 2/26/11 7:36 p.m.
                             Ranksdogcom 2/26/11 7:53 p.m.
                                   Re: RanksDEEP NNN 2/26/11 8:05 p.m.
                                         Re: RanksFyreWulff 2/26/11 8:08 p.m.
                 Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 5:09 p.m.
                 Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orvlad3163 2/26/11 10:10 p.m.
     But CR = Idlers Paradisesharpsniper99 2/26/11 6:41 p.m.
           Re: But CR = Idlers ParadiseFyreWulff 2/26/11 7:05 p.m.
                 Re: But CR = Idlers ParadiseFyreWulff 2/26/11 7:15 p.m.
                 Re: But CR = Idlers Paradisesharpsniper99 2/27/11 4:34 a.m.
                       Re: But CR = Idlers Paradisesharpsniper99 2/27/11 5:04 a.m.
     PS. Fyrefulff, Gr1m?munky-058 2/26/11 6:46 p.m.
           Re: PS. Fyrefulff, Gr1m?FyreWulff 2/26/11 7:45 p.m.
                 Fyrefluff? That's OUSTANDING!munky-058 2/26/11 8:02 p.m.
     Nicedogcom 2/26/11 7:57 p.m.
     I actually read the whole thing. *NM*SonGoharotto 2/26/11 8:11 p.m.
           Bleep Bloop *NM*FyreWulff 2/26/11 8:12 p.m.
     Sup Devin OlsenFyreWulff 2/26/11 8:12 p.m.
           Re: Sup Devin OlsenDevin Olsen 2/26/11 8:37 p.m.
                 Re: Sup Devin OlsenFyreWulff 2/26/11 8:47 p.m.
                 Re: Sup Devin OlsenSonGoharotto 2/26/11 9:04 p.m.
                       Re: Sup Devin OlsenArteenEsben 2/26/11 9:33 p.m.
                             Re: Sup Devin OlsenDevin Olsen 2/26/11 9:52 p.m.
                                   Re: Sup Devin Olsenmunky-058 2/26/11 10:09 p.m.
                                         Re: Sup Devin OlsenSonGoharotto 2/27/11 8:31 a.m.
                                   Re: Sup Devin OlsenGeneral Vagueness 2/26/11 10:52 p.m.
                                         Re: Sup Devin OlsenHawaiian Pig 2/27/11 4:33 p.m.
                                               Re: Sup Devin OlsenHawaiian Pig 2/27/11 4:37 p.m.
                                                     Re: Sup Devin OlsenGeneral Vagueness 2/27/11 5:52 p.m.
                 Re: Sup Devin OlsenBlueNinja 2/27/11 5:56 a.m.
     Nice post.Gravemind 2/27/11 2:44 a.m.
           Re: Nice post.DEEP NNN 2/27/11 8:20 a.m.
                 Re: Nice post.BlueNinja 2/27/11 9:49 a.m.
                       Re: Nice post.FyreWulff 2/27/11 10:07 a.m.
                             Re: Nice post.BlueNinja 2/27/11 12:00 p.m.
                             Re: Nice post.Gravemind 2/27/11 12:32 p.m.
           Re: Nice post.FyreWulff 2/27/11 9:38 a.m.
                 if you flag hold on my teamkidtsunami 2/27/11 3:37 p.m.
                       Re: if you flag hold on my teamFyreWulff 2/27/11 4:15 p.m.
                             ^ I have the same mindset as you two.NsU Soldier 2/27/11 7:33 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orZogen 2/27/11 4:29 a.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orzonemanwilf 2/27/11 4:42 a.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/27/11 9:07 a.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orFyreWulff 2/27/11 10:05 a.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orKalamariKidd 2/27/11 10:17 a.m.
     Some notes....RC Master 2/27/11 11:09 a.m.
           Re: Some notes....FyreWulff 2/27/11 11:47 a.m.
                 Re: Some notes....RC Master 2/28/11 9:28 a.m.
                       Re: Some notes....FyreWulff 2/28/11 10:01 a.m.
     Wholeheartedly agree *NM*kidtsunami 2/28/11 12:05 a.m.



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