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Story facts are canon, not interpretations.
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>	Date: 9/11/08 3:32 a.m.
In Response To: IDIC (scarab) : I have issues with the concept of canon, that there is one truth. : Also, my one truth about Halo is: Halo Story Evolved. : Yes there is a bible but I bet that the games and the bible only overlap to a : degree. : If JJ never told anybody what, 'I am a monument to all your sins' actually : means then there is no possibility of a definite fan statement on the : subject. Even Joe and Marty and Frankie don't know what it really means. : Maybe, shock horror, it has no meaning. It just sounds cool. Canonicity doesn't answer questions like that. It is not designed to interpret, that is a separate task. It is designed to determine the correct sequence of events and other factual statements-- dates, names, places-- not meaning. The only canon value the above has is the question of whether GM said it or not, who he said it to, and when, and what happened next. What he meant by it and why are matters of interpreation. Interpretations don't have canon value; only facts do. : I also believe that even the guys at Bungie don't agree what the story is or : what its about. I also suspect that in some places where they think they : are in agreement, they aren't. Of course. That's normal, natural, and to be expected. In fact, if everybody agrees on what your story is and what it's about, it probably isn't very interesting! : I've been in meetings where people all say they are in agreement but when you : actually listen to what people are saying... each statement of the common : truth contradicts or is in some way incompatible with everybody else's : vision of the shared truth. I suspect that this also happens at Bungie. : To me, canon seems to be an attempt to make everything consistent. : I think that is doomed to fail. Factually consistent. Nothing more. : But I also think that denying inconsistencies prevents you from honestly : evaluating them . I'm less interested in finding the one true : interpretation. I'm more interested in finding out why something is : inconsistent. Canon has nothing to do with interpretation.

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By the way	UNSC_Trooper	9/7/08 5:13 p.m.
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An old issue regarding what's canon	Avateur	9/7/08 10:47 p.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Avateur	9/7/08 10:55 p.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Omega	9/7/08 11:00 p.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Avateur	9/7/08 11:03 p.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	vlad3163	9/7/08 11:29 p.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	UNSC_Trooper	9/8/08 4:39 a.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Narcogen	9/8/08 6:26 a.m.
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Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Narcogen	9/8/08 11:09 p.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	My7hos	9/8/08 10:15 a.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Narcogen	9/8/08 11:12 p.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	My7hos	9/9/08 4:34 a.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Narcogen	9/9/08 7:20 a.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	My7hos	9/9/08 7:37 a.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Louis Wu	9/9/08 8:56 a.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	My7hos	9/9/08 9:03 a.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	General Vagueness	9/9/08 10:16 a.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Narcogen	9/10/08 3:59 a.m.
Core. Peripheral. Fringe.	My7hos	9/10/08 7:28 a.m.
Re: Core. Peripheral. Fringe.	Louis Wu	9/10/08 7:41 a.m.
Well yeah...	My7hos	9/10/08 8:38 a.m.
Re: Well yeah...	UNSC_Trooper	9/10/08 8:53 a.m.
Re: Well yeah...	mendicantbias00	9/10/08 9:15 a.m.
Re: Well yeah...	My7hos	9/10/08 9:45 a.m.
Yup...and maybe...	mendicantbias00	9/11/08 8:09 a.m.
Re: Yup...and maybe...	My7hos	9/11/08 8:37 a.m.
Re: Yup...and maybe...	mendicantbias00	9/11/08 8:53 a.m.
Re: Well yeah...	Narcogen	9/11/08 3:27 a.m.
Re: Core. Peripheral. Fringe.	Narcogen	9/11/08 3:24 a.m.
IDIC	scarab	9/10/08 7:49 a.m.
Story facts are canon, not interpretations.	Narcogen	9/11/08 3:32 a.m.
Re: Story facts are canon, not interpretations.	scarab	9/12/08 4:39 p.m.
Re: Story facts are canon, not interpretations.	UNSC_Trooper	9/12/08 5:20 p.m.
Re: Story facts are canon, not interpretations.	scarab	9/13/08 2:30 p.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/8/08 4:01 p.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	scarab	9/8/08 4:09 p.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	9/8/08 7:16 p.m.
Ratings and thresholds	Narcogen	9/8/08 11:14 p.m.
Re: Ratings and thresholds	UNSC_Trooper	9/9/08 5:01 a.m.
Re: Ratings and thresholds	Narcogen	9/9/08 7:28 a.m.
Re: Ratings and thresholds *NM*	scarab	9/9/08 8:28 a.m.
Doh! Chrome ^^^^ *NM*	scarab	9/9/08 12:33 p.m.
Huh? *NM*	UNSC_Trooper	9/9/08 12:41 p.m.
Re: Huh?	scarab	9/10/08 7:16 a.m.
Re: Huh?	Narcogen	9/11/08 3:33 a.m.
Re: Ratings and thresholds	Red_Breast	9/9/08 11:20 a.m.
Re: Ratings and thresholds	Narcogen	9/10/08 4:17 a.m.
A Halo movie would be canon?	topleybird at work	9/12/08 12:33 p.m.
Two different canons.	My7hos	9/12/08 12:45 p.m.
Re: A Halo movie would be canon?	UNSC_Trooper	9/12/08 12:45 p.m.
Re: An old issue regarding what's canon	Narcogen	9/8/08 2:44 a.m.