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Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.
Posted By: Honestly <Hadjorim@yahoo.com>Date: 5/3/08 10:18 p.m.

In Response To: Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war. (elpolloguapo)


: That's not an argument

Not in a traditional sense no. But this isn't the real world were talking about, this is a fictional one, so it can go either way.

: Generally speaking, it's more likely that they didn't have that capability
: than that they did
: The sentinels were designed (presumably) to fight the flood, there would be a
: massive mobilization of industry to create the facilities you're talking
: about. In a totally chaotic war, where planets are being overrun and
: destroyed, mobilization would be very, very difficult

Actually, according to Halopedia: Sentinels have been known to have been created long before Installation 04 was ever conceived. They operated automated facilities such as Gas Mines like the one found on Threshold for "untold centuries" before the facility was redesigned to research the Flood. Therefore it is possible that they were only outfitted for combat after the Flood was discovered.

Also, apparently not SO chaotic and overwhelming, as the war DID last for 300 years. Plenty of time to get things rolling.


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The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 6:25 p.m.
     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.reprobate 5/3/08 6:33 p.m.
           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 6:37 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SgtSatin 5/3/08 6:42 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Jordan117 5/3/08 6:56 p.m.
                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 7:06 p.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:11 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:18 p.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:31 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:39 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:46 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:00 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:07 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:15 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:23 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:25 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:30 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:32 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:35 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:44 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:52 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:58 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:02 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 11:12 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Leviathan 5/3/08 11:21 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:25 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:29 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:34 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Leviathan 5/3/08 11:38 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:41 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Leviathan 5/3/08 11:50 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:56 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 7:13 p.m.
                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 7:17 p.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Miguel Chavez 5/3/08 7:55 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 7:59 p.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.GatchamanUK 5/3/08 8:08 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:12 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.GatchamanUK 5/3/08 8:18 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:23 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:14 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:22 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:32 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:41 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:47 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:03 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:10 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:18 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:20 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:23 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:27 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:30 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         You can't prove a universal negative...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:31 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: You can't prove a universal negative...Honestly 5/3/08 10:34 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 10:37 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:38 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Another thing to consider...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:39 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: Another thing to consider...Honestly 5/3/08 10:40 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: Another thing to consider...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:41 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: Another thing to consider...Honestly 5/3/08 10:53 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Leviathan 5/3/08 11:34 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:12 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:20 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:27 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:37 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:50 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:56 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:00 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:04 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:06 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:15 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Leviathan 5/3/08 11:30 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:32 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:34 p.m.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:45 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:46 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 11:02 p.m.
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                                                                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 11:17 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:29 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 11:34 p.m.
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                                                                                                                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:37 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Echoes 5/3/08 11:44 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:45 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:44 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 11:47 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:58 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.bedlam 5/4/08 3:24 a.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.bedlam 5/4/08 2:42 a.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 8:11 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:18 p.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 8:37 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:40 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 9:56 p.m.
                                                           Technically speaking...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:00 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Technically speaking...SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 10:04 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Technically speaking...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:06 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:05 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:08 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 10:08 p.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:12 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:21 p.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:35 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:44 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:53 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:09 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:17 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:28 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:54 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:01 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 11:22 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:30 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Cthulhu117 5/4/08 12:03 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.bedlam 5/4/08 1:41 a.m.
     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.scarab 5/3/08 7:03 p.m.
           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 7:11 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.GatchamanUK 5/3/08 7:47 p.m.
                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:06 p.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.GatchamanUK 5/3/08 8:12 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:21 p.m.
                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SgtSatin 5/3/08 8:59 p.m.
     Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...GatchamanUK 5/3/08 8:21 p.m.
           Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...Honestly 5/3/08 8:21 p.m.
                 Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:16 p.m.
                       Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...Honestly 5/3/08 10:39 p.m.
                             Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:41 p.m.
                                   Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...Honestly 5/3/08 10:49 p.m.
                                         Ah but you see...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:53 p.m.
                                               Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/3/08 11:08 p.m.
                                                     Re: Ah but you see...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:12 p.m.
                                                           Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/3/08 11:14 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Ah but you see...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:15 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/3/08 11:22 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Ah but you see...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:24 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/3/08 11:47 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Ah but you see...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 11:26 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/3/08 11:50 p.m.
                                                     Re: Ah but you see...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 11:14 p.m.
                                                           Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/4/08 12:01 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Ah but you see...Miguel Chavez 5/4/08 12:06 a.m.
                       Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...GatchamanUK 5/4/08 6:32 a.m.
     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 8:39 p.m.
           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:44 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Cthulhu117 5/4/08 12:07 p.m.
     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:07 p.m.
           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:13 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:24 p.m.
                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:31 p.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:39 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:55 p.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:00 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:02 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:46 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 10:53 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:12 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 11:23 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/4/08 12:09 a.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 11:11 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 10:11 p.m.
     Also, the flood could have handily won...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:05 p.m.
           Re: Also, the flood could have handily won...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 10:14 p.m.
           Re: Also, the flood could have handily won...Honestly 5/3/08 11:52 p.m.
                 I think this thread is supposed to be dead, but...SPARTAN-034 5/4/08 11:16 a.m.
     Hey look at that...stan 5/3/08 10:38 p.m.
     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.bedlam 5/4/08 1:33 a.m.
     Means vs. WillSonofMacPhisto 5/18/08 12:56 a.m.
           *nm* Is Forerunner ability the WRONG question? *NM*SonofMacPhisto 5/18/08 12:58 a.m.
           Re: Means vs. WillJillybean 5/18/08 6:57 a.m.
                 Re: Means vs. WillSonofMacPhisto 5/19/08 5:54 p.m.
                 Re: Means vs. WillSonofMacPhisto 5/19/08 6:51 p.m.
                       Re: Means vs. WillRed X 117 5/21/08 10:01 p.m.
                             Re: Means vs. Willelpolloguapo 5/21/08 10:03 p.m.
                                   Re: Means vs. WillRed X 117 5/21/08 10:53 p.m.
                                         Re: Means vs. WillFree Weights 5/21/08 11:24 p.m.
                                               Chief's Dead in 'Heaven?' Well... sorta!SonofMacPhisto 5/21/08 11:42 p.m.
                                                     Master Chief: The Last CrusadeFree Weights 5/22/08 6:50 p.m.
                                                           Re: Master Chief: The Last CrusadeSonofMacPhisto 5/22/08 7:06 p.m.
                                         Re: Means vs. Willelpolloguapo 5/22/08 6:13 a.m.



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