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Just some thoughts on all this...
Posted By: Mahars <superslayer25@aol.com>Date: 7/8/04 12:18 a.m.

In Response To: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least) (yakaman)

: I think it is a generally accepted theory that humans are the forerunner,
: that roughy 100,000 years ago Halo 4 was triggered to stop a flood
: outbreak, and that 343 GS was around to watch it happen. Further, it is
: generally accepted that destroying the Flood's food source means the end
: of all life large enough and/or sentient enough to support the Flood.

: IF the above are assumed to be true, and because Bungie really seems to like
: to create a realistic set of events to get from here to there in their
: stories, there must be a way to explain how, in roughly 100,000 years not
: only one, but multiple sentient life forms could evolve when all large
: and/or advanced life forms had been completely wiped out.

: It took roughly 60 million years for small mammals to evolve into primates.
: Depending out which human evolution theory you ascribe to, it took roughly
: 4 million years for humans to split off from other primates and become who
: we are. Finally, of those 4 million years, it took 3.95 million for the
: human brain to become as it essentially is now. What I'm trying to show is
: that it is highly improbable that humans, grunts, hunters, prophets,
: elites, brutes, jackals, and god knows what else we haven't heard about
: would all be able to spring forth from the muck naturally in 100,000
: years.

: So here is the theory: Flash back to 100,000 years ago...the Forerunner, the
: most advanced civilization in the galaxy, are engaged in a desperate
: battle with the flood. Desperate because the Flood has overrun almost
: everything else in the entire galaxy...or soon will. They have studied the
: flood and have come to understand that there is no stopping them, that
: inevitibly, all sentient life in the galaxy will be assimilated into the
: flood, marking the end of intelligent life in the galaxy for eternity.
: They begin building the Halos, fortress worlds where they can study the
: flood. Of course, the Halos have a second, darker purpose - they can wipe
: out all life in the galaxy and kill the flood.

: Incredibly advanced and enlighted, but understanding their dire
: responsibility, the Forerunner decide to trigger the Halos. Before doing
: so, they sample the DNA from all of the sentient races in the
: galaxy...including the races seen in the covenant. Halo's weapon is
: triggered, with 343GS watching...you can almost imagine the last
: forerunner asking 343GS if he would do any different in the same
: situation. 343 GS comes to the same conclusiion some 100,000 years
: later...yes, he too would wipe out all life in the galaxy to save it.

: Some short period after Halo is triggered, "seed pods" are sent out
: from Halo for destinations on former worlds of occupation. Grunt DNA seeds
: are sent to their methaned-atmosphered world....prophet DNA seeds are sent
: to their former homeworld, and the forerunner DNA seed pod is sent to a
: little blue planet in a solar system we know well.

: Arguments?

there's only around nine planets in our galaxy, right? there is no planet Reach, no planets that are mentioned in Halo (aside from Earth, of course.) So it all takes place in other galaxies, right? I havn't seen that said outright anywhere, and some people said it all takes place in our galaxy. So, what if the covenant were already far more advanced then us, but they were just slower in discovering the technology? What if the Forerunner were similar to humans, but yet different? (like the "Lucy" fossil found some years ago, that was thought to be our ancestor)

Let's say the forerunner, in our ever-expanding universe, came uponm a world with a virus that shortens lifespans and female fertility in some species. Now, the forerunner just happens to be close enough (geneticly)to a species that is fully affected by the virus, and is then decreased in species size as the virus is caught by other forerunner? (the virus could be like AIds, in the way that it's had to detect for a while, but is always there when you have it.)The covenant, being very unadvanced at this time, mmight have considered the forerunner gods, and as the forerunner die the covinent might belive that the forerunner "ascended" to heaven, and left hem incharge. So, as they expanded, tey came across the humans, and, considering we look like the forerunner, considered us imposter and, thus, unholy, and a joke directed so the "gods" were the butt(forgot a better way to say that :P.)

As for the flood, the were a cure for the disease, but only if you were not completely transformed, so the Halos were testing to find the right transformation %. A medical accident occures, and some flood transform fully. instead of destroying them, the forerunner dicied they might be able to find a cure, or reverse the effects(thus eliminating the first research entirly.) As this research progresses, the first is forgotten, and flood are preserved for future research. All this time,the forerunner are dieing out. The Halos get cut off from the rest of the universe. As they die, they each belive more forerunner will eventuially come and continue the research, so the set up the moniters (like 343 GS), preserve some small flood, and then set up a fail-safe, incase the flood escape. Thus the flood are on Halo. The covenant, not knowing this, explores the Halos, but cannot decode anything. After find an artifact on Reach to help them, they successfully decode it, but with some mmissing or added words, thus changing the meaning. Thinking it is a weapon, the dig deeper to find how to use it to destroy the hummans. they uncover the flood, try to contain it, but fail. I'm out of ideas and my head is starting to hurt after so much speculation. These are just some thoughts I've had, then expanded upon.


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The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 6/27/04 2:22 p.m.
     The above is long, REAL long. *NM*DragonReborn 6/27/04 2:24 p.m.
     None...I like it. *NM*Marcus 6/27/04 2:25 p.m.
           Ditto. *NM*Blitzwolf 6/27/04 2:47 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Ninja Steve 6/27/04 2:51 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)wmaltby 6/27/04 3:30 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Elf Lord 6/27/04 3:58 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)chaotic_mind 6/27/04 5:01 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Nondre 6/27/04 5:06 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:17 a.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Lone Sniper SG 7/12/04 9:02 p.m.
                             Hey, back it up...Mr.Mongoose 7/12/04 9:28 p.m.
                                   Re: Hey, back it up...mnemesis 7/12/04 10:11 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:15 a.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)th3ranger 6/30/04 10:52 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Matfield 7/1/04 10:42 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zealous 6/29/04 12:44 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)aznthunder 6/29/04 1:41 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Alf-Life 7/11/04 11:11 a.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Vitron 7/11/04 12:44 p.m.
                 It's a novel!yakaman 7/11/04 12:46 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Louis Wu 6/27/04 3:35 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Mr. Mojo Risin 6/27/04 4:19 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)wmaltby 6/27/04 4:20 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 8:43 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Lone Sniper SG 7/12/04 8:54 p.m.
                                   Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 9:04 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 9:00 p.m.
                                   Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 9:07 p.m.
                                         and I'm NOT one of them :P *NM*a Bomb 7/12/04 9:09 p.m.
                                         Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 9:19 p.m.
                                               Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 9:38 p.m.
                                               Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/12/04 11:18 p.m.
                             A fun idea but you forgot its "local years"Gundulf 7/12/04 9:23 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Sep7imus [subnova] 6/27/04 5:05 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pico 6/27/04 5:13 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Wado SG 6/27/04 5:16 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:21 a.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)cyberdude21 7/28/04 10:36 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 6/27/04 5:13 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 6/27/04 8:14 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Zaknafein 6/28/04 11:37 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)th3ranger 6/30/04 11:03 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 8:51 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 8:56 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/12/04 8:59 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Steve Ollett 7/1/04 3:13 a.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Nondre 6/27/04 5:07 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 6/27/04 5:18 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Nondre 6/27/04 5:23 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Louis Wu 6/27/04 8:52 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 6/27/04 9:52 p.m.
     I notice one major flawToddzilla 6/27/04 7:32 p.m.
           Re: I notice one major flawchaotic_mind 6/27/04 8:05 p.m.
                 Re: I notice one major flawToddzilla 6/27/04 8:14 p.m.
                       Re: I notice one major flawchaotic_mind 6/27/04 8:19 p.m.
                             Re: I notice one major flawyakaman 6/27/04 8:26 p.m.
                                   Re: I notice one major flawSaint 6/27/04 10:21 p.m.
                 Re: I notice one major flawyakaman 6/27/04 8:35 p.m.
                 Re: I notice one major flawSaint 6/27/04 10:13 p.m.
           Re: I notice one major flawyakaman 6/27/04 8:23 p.m.
     heres my problem..Zaknafein 6/28/04 12:09 p.m.
           Re: heres my problem..yakaman 6/28/04 5:35 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..Timmay 6/28/04 7:56 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/29/04 4:31 a.m.
                       Re: heres my problem..Zaknafein 6/29/04 11:09 a.m.
                             Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/29/04 12:23 p.m.
                                   Re: heres my problem..Louis Wu 6/29/04 12:32 p.m.
                                         Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/29/04 1:58 p.m.
                                               Re: heres my problem..Rampant Cowboy 6/29/04 5:16 p.m.
                                               Re: heres my problem..ThorsHammer 6/29/04 9:48 p.m.
                                                     Re: heres my problem..Karellen Lurksalot 6/30/04 4:52 a.m.
                                   Re: heres my problem..Zaknafein 6/29/04 3:35 p.m.
                             DNA isn't enough to revive a species.LietLives 6/29/04 11:36 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..Steve Ollett 7/1/04 3:22 a.m.
           Speculation. Very Rampant. Warning, Long Post.chaotic_mind 6/29/04 5:57 a.m.
           Re: heres my problem..Wado SG 6/29/04 11:32 p.m.
                 Re: heres my problem..LietLives 6/30/04 12:03 a.m.
           Re: heres my problem..a Bomb 7/12/04 9:27 p.m.
     sounds interestingCerenox 7/1/04 3:54 a.m.
           Re: sounds interestingSOA 7/1/04 5:52 a.m.
                 They bounce like a superball...Darkendes 7/2/04 3:11 a.m.
                       Re: They bounce like a superball...SOA 7/2/04 6:42 a.m.
                             Forgot to mention...SOA 7/2/04 6:56 a.m.
                                   Re: Forgot to mention...Darkendes 7/2/04 7:29 a.m.
                                   Re: Forgot to mention...chaotic_mind 7/2/04 6:09 p.m.
                                         how bout this......Timmay 7/2/04 10:57 p.m.
     Just some thoughts on all this...Mahars 7/8/04 12:18 a.m.
           Only nine planets in our Solar System, not galaxy *NM*Mister Chiffe 7/8/04 3:10 a.m.
                 10, actually, You're forgetting Sedna *NM* *NM*Menelvendwarf 7/8/04 4:28 a.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)up this 7/8/04 7:56 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)st. manathus 7/8/04 11:07 p.m.
           Its Been Said?Phaiz 7/9/04 4:48 a.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Noir. 7/12/04 6:51 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Pak 7/12/04 6:58 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)owlalf 7/12/04 7:08 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)a Bomb 7/13/04 9:00 a.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/13/04 11:11 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/12/04 11:28 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 7/12/04 11:28 p.m.
     Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/13/04 10:04 p.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/13/04 11:24 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/14/04 1:36 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/14/04 6:33 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/15/04 2:50 a.m.
           Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)yakaman 7/14/04 2:38 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/14/04 6:55 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/14/04 8:33 p.m.
                       Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)PsycoJoe 7/15/04 12:07 a.m.
                             The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/15/04 3:00 a.m.
                                   Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/15/04 2:37 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)scorpionx7 7/15/04 2:36 p.m.
                             Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Raphite 7/15/04 10:58 p.m.
                 Re: The Theory of Everything (for Halo, at least)Timmay 7/15/04 2:55 a.m.



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