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Re: Finally Reached *SP*
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 9/23/10 11:32 p.m.


: Just slugging in my agreement with the point here, and a bit of wondering
: whether it was that very message that has contributed to some folks'
: annoyance; as the Chief we never ran into futility,

Hmm. That depends. We never ran into futility when the mission was to achieve something concrete and physical.

First Keyes rescue? Accomplished. Second? Well, him-- or his implants. Blow up the ship? No problem.

Halo 2 starts getting messy.

We're supposed to capture Regret on his carrier. He gets away.

We follow, and we're supposed to find out why he came to Earth, and why he came to Delta.

Later, Cortana revises that, and says to just kill him-- so we accomplish that, but it took four levels to achieve one plot-related goal.

and as the Rookie the
: futility we encountered (the obstensible mission of capturing Regret's
: supercarrier) served only as a setup for the actual success (Dare's
: mission, and Vergil's recovery).

: I'm not so sure it was oversold, but that's going to come down to personal
: taste I think.

Well the objective in ODST certainly was. They talk about the Superintendent's data as recovered by the Engineer as helping to win the war, but there's no evidence within the context of Halo 3 that any such information was used. Everyone is still clueless as to what the portal is, right up until the last second.

: As the kids are saying these days, "this".

: Well, he wasn't... I think that's clear, at least once UPPERCUT is
: accomplished. I think if Carter (or particularly Kat) had been making the
: call at that point, based on personalities and mission requirements it
: would have been Six acting as the human fuse.... but it wasn't. It was
: Jorge making the call, the SPARTAN-II whose empathy ("Big man forgets
: what he is sometimes.") had been well established by then. It wasn't
: in Jorge's character to make a teammate die for his mission, and Jorge
: forced the issue (physically!) to suit his own preferences.

True... I guess I just figured that with the war going as badly as it has, and all the colony worlds lost up until this point, Jorge's personality just happens to lead to this suicide at this moment? I don't know. Something about it struck me as wrong. Misallocation of resources :)

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