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Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)
Posted By: tln <tlniec@hotmail.com>Date: 9/17/10 1:40 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words) (gspawn)


: Disagree here.

: The main theme in Reach is futility. So like the Pelican mission- everything
: you do on that mission is entirely futile. Even if you get these people
: into Orbit, the Covenant's just going to use their ship's hull to help
: decorate the atmosphere.

: But that's the point. You're making this stand, even knowing you've already
: failed, because it's just something you have to do. The orders really
: don't make any sense, and it really is just a series of "go here do
: this" missions. But that's all Noble 6's life is at that point,
: scrabbling for survival and following orders along the way. I think that's
: actaully pretty powerful.

: I remember a similar argument in Halo 1, when people were complaining that
: the Flood were just yucky zombies and weren't fun to fight. They're not
: supposed to be clasically fun to fight like the Covenant, they're not
: supposed to involve your aesthetic pleasure like the semiorganic forms of
: Covenant tech, the Flood is supposed to impress upon you how important it
: is keep the rest of the galaxy safe from them. (although this wore off
: entirely for H2/H3- the Flood wound up being drab, poorly designed, and
: downright annoying instead of icky / terrifying). In being nasty and
: terrifying and you bastards aren't leaving this rock, Halo 1's Flood was
: an amazing enemy.

: That still doesn't excuse the missions in Reach that really don't advance
: anything, like the mentioned communications tower... thing... deals. It's
: really just a callback to Halo and Foehammer picking up Marines, which I
: can enjoy as a fan, but objectively I see how it doesn't really do
: anything.

On the story, my opinion hews closer to yours than to Cody's. I would say some of the missions he suggested could be cut, as they don't advance the plot, would in fact have to be retained, because they reinforce this theme. But I also agree (with both of you) that there were still some that don't feel all that important. I can sort of reconcile those missions by the fact that as Noble Team, you're a valuable battlefield asset, and command would naturally be sending you orders to do stuff they think is strategically important (whether or not they're actually right about that fact). This isn't like the Master Chief, where you're the so-called "last" Spartan, and as such get a special pass to just do epic things. Maybe that's a bit apologist, though.

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Thoughts on Reach (4K words)Cody Miller 9/17/10 11:57 a.m.
     Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)General Battuta 9/17/10 12:15 p.m.
     good thoughts *NM*Schedonnardus 9/17/10 12:17 p.m.
     Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)terminator182 9/17/10 12:34 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)General Battuta 9/17/10 12:56 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)DHalo 9/17/10 6:02 p.m.
     Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)Ducain 9/17/10 12:43 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)General Battuta 9/17/10 12:57 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)uberfoop 9/17/10 1:03 p.m.
     Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)NeoN 9/17/10 1:19 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)General Battuta 9/17/10 1:32 p.m.
     Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)gspawn 9/17/10 1:21 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)NeoN 9/17/10 1:38 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)BanditORR 9/17/10 2:41 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)tln 9/17/10 1:40 p.m.
     Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)bluerunner 9/17/10 1:54 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)gspawn 9/17/10 2:03 p.m.
     Let's take a better look at that... *SP*BlueNinja 9/17/10 2:01 p.m.
           Re: Let's take a better look at that... *SP*bluerunner 9/17/10 2:05 p.m.
                 Oh snap! *NM*BlueNinja 9/17/10 2:09 p.m.
           Re: Let's take a better look at that... *SP*Hawaiian Pig 9/17/10 8:07 p.m.
     I beg to differ.munky-058 9/17/10 2:31 p.m.
           Re: I beg to differ.Ducain 9/17/10 5:26 p.m.
           Re: I beg to differ.Hawaiian Pig 9/17/10 6:03 p.m.
     Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)bluerunner 9/17/10 2:40 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)Cody Miller 9/17/10 2:52 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)Ze Moose 9/19/10 12:38 a.m.
     Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)DEEP NNN 9/17/10 2:53 p.m.
     Agreed on out of bounds msgs and plot presentationreprobate 9/17/10 5:37 p.m.
     Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)General Vagueness 9/17/10 5:42 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)Hawaiian Pig 9/17/10 6:00 p.m.
                 Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)General Vagueness 9/17/10 6:34 p.m.
                       Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)Crab 9/18/10 11:26 a.m.
                             Re: Thoughts on Reach (4K words)Hawaiian Pig 9/19/10 12:40 a.m.
     DropShield is most useful on Legendary by far. *NM*c0ld vengeance 9/18/10 10:17 a.m.
     Character investmentkapowaz 9/18/10 5:34 p.m.
           Re: Character investmentHawaiian Pig 9/19/10 12:37 a.m.
                 Re: Character investmentLouis Wu 9/19/10 8:08 a.m.
                       Re: Character investmentHawaiian Pig 9/19/10 4:14 p.m.
           Re: Character investmentZe Moose 9/19/10 12:44 a.m.
                 Re: Character investmentkapowaz 9/19/10 3:11 a.m.



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