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Re: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*
Posted By: InnerRayg	Date: 1/22/08 10:23 p.m.
In Response To: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers* (reprobate) : 1) The Hierarchs knew that humans were "Forerunner" or at least : Reclaimers, so I still don't understand why it would be a surprise to them : that humans were at the Ark given their obvious connection to the : Forerunner. I know the Prophets and Elites and other Cov species probably : found many other Forerunner ruins with no humans around, but it was : specifically Regret who somehow didn't stop to think that reclaimers might : possibly be on arguably the most important of all Forerunner artifacts? : Maybe he was just hasty and didn't think of all the possible consequences, : we kinda see that side of him in the book... : 2) How do we know that Mendicant Bias is the Oracle from Contact Harvest? 343 : was an Oracle, and evidently there were others around (like 2401 or : whatever), so unless I missed a detail in the book, I'm not sure how we : can say for sure that MB is the Oracle from the Dreadnought. Certainly an : AI in a Forerunner ship would lead one to assume that it is possibly the : same as the one from the terminals, but who's to say that MB wasn't just : stuck on the Ark the entire time? On your second point- Contact Harvest is what tells us that MB was not on the Ark the entire time. The terminals tell us MB was shut up in a single Forerunner Dreadnaught by his opponent (The other Bias, his name escapes me.). Now in the book, we are told an oracle in the Forerunner Dreadnought ship, who looks like an Eye (similiar to something we know, hmm? Terminals maybe?) Is awakened after centuries of silence and announces that it wants to atone for it's sins and tries to leave for the Ark, after being shown Reclaimers lived. What does MB want to do? He wants to right his wrongs. To atone, if you will. That's a pretty obvious connect the dots kind of thing, In my Opinion. As for the Regret thing, it is a puzzler. My personal opinion has been that Regret didn't really care if there were humans; he wanted to get to the Ark by himself and do what Truth was trying to. Activate the rings, kill everything in the universe except for himself, become a "God".

Message Index

Story Shenanigans	Cody Miller	1/22/08 2:24 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	scarab	1/22/08 2:48 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Raulboy	1/22/08 5:27 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Captain Spark	1/22/08 2:50 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	McGrude	1/22/08 3:04 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Captain Spark	1/22/08 3:11 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Urban Reflex	1/22/08 3:15 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Captain Spark	1/22/08 3:25 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	the Light Show	1/23/08 2:37 a.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	scarab	1/23/08 8:15 a.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Don	4/4/08 3:06 p.m.
Either Didact, or just a random Forerunner. *NM*	BlueNinja	4/4/08 4:02 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Cthulhu117	1/22/08 7:10 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	DiscipleN2k	1/22/08 3:27 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Cody Miller	1/22/08 3:30 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Captain Spark	1/22/08 3:37 p.m.
To borrow from Star Trek First Contact...	McGrude	1/22/08 3:39 p.m.
I think we're overanalyzing	elpolloguapo	1/22/08 4:52 p.m.
^ i remember that! lol *NM*	the Light Show	1/23/08 2:41 a.m.
No dice.	Narcogen	1/23/08 10:01 a.m.
Other Answers	DHalo	1/22/08 3:38 p.m.
...and a few more...	Leviathan	1/22/08 4:25 p.m.
Wait	Kockynvainn	1/23/08 2:28 p.m.
Re: Wait	elpolloguapo	1/23/08 2:29 p.m.
Re: Wait	Kockynvainn	1/23/08 2:54 p.m.
Re: Wait	Louis Wu	1/23/08 3:15 p.m.
OOPS!	Kockynvainn	1/23/08 3:45 p.m.
And illiterate it seems... *NM*	Kockynvainn	1/23/08 3:45 p.m.
SEE? *NM*	elpolloguapo	1/23/08 4:29 p.m.
Re: ...and a few more...	Jillybean	1/25/08 7:58 a.m.
Re: ...and a few more...	UrsusArctos	1/25/08 8:47 a.m.
Re: ...and a few more...	Narcogen	1/26/08 12:34 a.m.
Re: ...and a few more...	UrsusArctos	1/26/08 7:23 p.m.
Thanks, intersting *NM*	Cody Miller	1/22/08 9:33 p.m.
Re: Other Answers	Rosco-128	1/22/08 9:44 p.m.
Re: Other Answers	scarab	1/23/08 12:18 p.m.
ooooh, i see	Rosco-128	1/23/08 4:02 p.m.
I can no longer like this theory	Jillybean	1/25/08 8:37 a.m.
You STILL hate Cortana?	UrsusArctos	1/25/08 8:51 a.m.
Re: I can no longer like this theory	Peptuck	1/25/08 10:50 a.m.
Re: I can no longer like this theory	Cody Miller	1/25/08 12:37 p.m.
Re: I can no longer like this theory	Captain Spark	1/25/08 2:04 p.m.
Re: I can no longer like this theory	Leviathan	1/25/08 2:49 p.m.
Re: I can no longer like this theory	elpolloguapo	1/25/08 3:09 p.m.
Re: I can no longer like this theory	Leviathan	1/25/08 6:59 p.m.
Re: I can no longer like this theory	elpolloguapo	1/25/08 2:51 p.m.
Re: I can no longer like this theory	scarab	1/25/08 5:57 p.m.
Re: I can no longer like this theory	elpolloguapo	1/25/08 8:53 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Clefton Twain	1/22/08 3:47 p.m.
Answers.	InnerRayg	1/22/08 4:38 p.m.
Canon: Best Defensive Option Is A Last Offensive..	Narcogen	1/23/08 9:57 a.m.
Re: Canon: Best Defensive Option Is A Last Offensi	Simpsons Rule	1/23/08 10:03 a.m.
Re: Canon: Best Defensive Option Is A Last Offensi	Narcogen	1/23/08 10:19 a.m.
Re: Answers.	scarab	1/23/08 12:21 p.m.
Shamez-vous, CT	elpolloguapo	1/22/08 4:56 p.m.
Re: Shamez-vous, CT	Clefton Twain	1/23/08 8:23 a.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Peptuck	1/22/08 5:51 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	reprobate	1/22/08 7:37 p.m.
WTF do I know?	Clefton Twain	1/23/08 7:58 a.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	elpolloguapo	1/22/08 4:48 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Peptuck	1/22/08 5:49 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	DHalo	1/22/08 5:56 p.m.
Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*	reprobate	1/22/08 7:46 p.m.
Re: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*	InnerRayg	1/22/08 10:23 p.m.
Re: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*	reprobate	1/22/08 11:14 p.m.
Re: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*	scarab	1/23/08 1:08 a.m.
Mendicant also has to do with Orders that do Chari	Zohak	1/23/08 1:01 a.m.
Someone who lives on Charity :-)	scarab	1/23/08 1:10 a.m.
Re: Someone who lives on Charity :-)	reprobate	1/23/08 4:21 a.m.
>	DHalo	1/23/08 6:12 a.m.
^^ Its so much simpler than that...	DHalo	1/23/08 6:15 a.m.
Re: ^^ Its so much simpler than that...	scarab	1/23/08 7:48 a.m.
Actual quote, p276	scarab	1/23/08 12:40 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	scarab	1/23/08 7:46 a.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Ragashingo	1/22/08 6:57 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Cthulhu117	1/22/08 7:13 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Cthulhu117	1/22/08 7:07 p.m.
Purottohoru ga!	UrsusArctos	1/22/08 8:33 p.m.
Liar. *BLAM!*	Gravemind	1/23/08 12:15 a.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Omega	1/22/08 11:13 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Avateur	1/23/08 2:29 a.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Cthulhu117	1/23/08 12:56 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Avateur	1/23/08 6:14 p.m.
I'll get my broom.	Narcogen	1/23/08 8:27 a.m.
Re: I'll get my broom.	scarab	1/23/08 10:57 a.m.
Re: I'll get my broom.	scarab	1/23/08 11:03 a.m.
Just a thought	scarab	1/23/08 11:07 a.m.
Re: Just a thought	Cthulhu117	1/23/08 12:58 p.m.
Years	Narcogen	1/23/08 7:57 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	bedlam	1/23/08 4:30 p.m.
Re: Story Shenanigans	Kockynvainn	1/23/08 5:19 p.m.