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Re: Anyone else see a problem?
Posted By: Chilly Cha Cha <dakinle@yahoo.com>Date: 3/23/05 7:27 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Anyone else see a problem? (Elfum)

: First of all, only Microsoft 1st party games have made premium content, so
: the companies themselves don't get any money, only Microsoft. So this
: probably isn't even a Bungie decision, and therefore they probably aren't
: the ones to blame if this makes you mad.

: Also, this kind of situation has always been the kind Microsoft likes. They
: have a monopoly on the Halo 2 downloadable content business, and they plan
: on making the most of it. To those who said "this smack of coperate
: greed" so does everything remotely like this.

What a very odd response to what I had written - did you read it? I was defending Bungie for acting as a corporation - not criticizing. Moreover, the tone of the post certainly would not lead one to make the comment "if that makes you mad" - as nowhere did I express any disillusionment or anger; and, indeed, expressed the notion that I would pay $5 for downloadable maps, but probably not any more than that. Where did I ever say this smacks of corporate greed? I said that it was acting as a corporation because it is a corporation. Thus, Bungie, as any corporation, has a fiduciary (definition: position of trust, especially with regard to financial matters) obligation to maximize profits and return on investment for shareholders. To perform its task successfully, Bungie must therefore weigh the cost of delivering after-market content against the benefits of charging or not charging for that content. These costs/benefits include, inter alia, creating customer good-will, or risking customer ill-will.

As to your initial comment that "only Microsoft 1st party games have made premium content, so the companies themselves don't get any money", you are ill-informed. One example is Konami's Dance Dance Revolution Ultramix 1 and Ultramix 2. Konami has nothing whatsoever to do with Microsoft other than as a third-party developer of games for the XBox, and the Dance Dance Revolution games are certainly not 1st party games. Despite that fact, Konami has, via XBox live, successfully charged $5 a piece for each of 8 (soon to be 9) "song packs" as premium content. Additionally, on the DDRFreak.com forums, where several persons associated with Konami Computer Entertainment Hawaii post (as Frankie from Bungie does here sometimes), those KCEH employees have made clear that the decision to charge for the packs came from Konami, not from Microsoft. What has been implied, as well, is that of every $5 spent, Konami gets a percentage and Microsoft gets a percentage. In my post, however, I did expressly acknowledge that I do not know the specifics of those arrangements.


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     Woah! This looks.. really... wow.Littlebigman 3/21/05 11:47 p.m.
           UK PriceAdmiral Adam 3/22/05 2:33 p.m.
     Re: Heh, Looks like the cat's out of the bagKP 3/21/05 11:49 p.m.
           Re: Heh, Looks like the cat's out of the bagSlith [Subnova] 3/21/05 11:54 p.m.
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                 Did anyone preorder?JesterT 3/22/05 1:20 p.m.
     Expected it *NM*KoRnKId69 3/21/05 11:54 p.m.
           9 Maps, lets start naming them!chaos recon 3/22/05 12:06 a.m.
                 Re: 9 Maps, lets start naming them!Grum 3/22/05 2:53 a.m.
                       Re: 9 Maps, lets start naming them!KilgoreTrout XL 3/22/05 8:13 a.m.
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                                                                                   I think I mixed up my conversionJillybean 3/22/05 9:43 a.m.
                                                                                         Never mindJillybean 3/22/05 9:44 a.m.
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                                                                                               sometimes the problem's overratedhminn 3/22/05 10:12 a.m.
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                             Hmm...nighthawk127127 3/22/05 10:26 a.m.
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                                                     It happens on every forum...Kyrceck 3/22/05 7:31 p.m.
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                                                           Yes. *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/22/05 8:07 p.m.
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                                   Re: How old are you?*THASF* A.K.A. The Halo and Sonic Fan 3/22/05 8:44 a.m.
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                                   Another kid playing with plastic bags?Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/22/05 9:34 a.m.
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                       If you dont like Halo 2, then leave.Littlebigman 3/22/05 10:43 a.m.
                             Re: If you dont like Halo 2, then leave.Toejamfrog 3/22/05 4:16 p.m.
                 Re: Dude calm down, at least we're getting new conth3gh05t 3/22/05 11:34 a.m.
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                             Re: Dude calm down, at least we're getting new conmad.max [subnova] 3/22/05 6:18 p.m.
                                   Re: slut. *NM*Sep7imus [subnova] 3/23/05 6:19 a.m.
           Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack Linksh33p 3/22/05 6:19 a.m.
                 Good Pt: $2 per map IF they charge. Not bad :) *NM*KilgoreTrout XL 3/22/05 8:27 a.m.
           Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack LinkAlexis 3/22/05 8:01 a.m.
           Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack LinkiBob 3/22/05 8:15 a.m.
           My second point.Calvin Chaos 3/22/05 8:35 a.m.
                 Re: My second point.C-B 3/22/05 8:44 a.m.
                       Re: My second point.Calvin Chaos 3/22/05 8:54 a.m.
                 HA HA. Busted. *NM*KilgoreTrout XL 3/22/05 8:45 a.m.
                 Re: My second point.Louis Wu 3/22/05 8:52 a.m.
                       Re: My second point.Calvin Chaos 3/22/05 8:57 a.m.
                       Re: "Disgruntitude" I believe. *NM*Sep7imus [subnova] 3/22/05 9:21 a.m.
                       Re: My second point.arclight 3/22/05 1:24 p.m.
                       Re: My second point.Dark Bastion 3/22/05 7:56 p.m.
                             Re: My second point.Echoes 3/22/05 8:45 p.m.
                 Re: My second point.th3gh05t 3/22/05 11:36 a.m.
                       Post of the month right here. *NM*KilgoreTrout XL 3/22/05 12:57 p.m.
                             Re: Post of the month right here.th3gh05t 3/22/05 9:56 p.m.
                 Re: My second point.Dark Bastion 3/22/05 3:20 p.m.
                       Re: My second point.Echoes 3/22/05 5:06 p.m.
                             Re: My second point.Dark Bastion 3/22/05 7:42 p.m.
                 Re: My second point.scoville 3/22/05 3:59 p.m.
                       Re: My second point.Echoes 3/22/05 5:08 p.m.
           I'll post my reply to this on my blog, later. *NM* *NM*Saint [lpn] 3/22/05 8:48 a.m.
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     I heard something todayArashi90 3/22/05 12:09 a.m.
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                 My bullshit detector is ringing *NM*Pico 3/22/05 4:02 a.m.
           wow........drfool 3/22/05 6:11 a.m.
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     Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack LinkVorpal Sword 3/22/05 8:01 a.m.
     NINE maps?!Saint [lpn] 3/22/05 8:03 a.m.
           Re: NINE maps?!Critical Mass 3/22/05 8:16 a.m.
           Re: NINE maps?!Poboonru 3/22/05 8:16 a.m.
                 Re: NINE maps?!KilgoreTrout XL 3/22/05 8:38 a.m.
           Re: NINE maps?!Don Won 3/22/05 9:44 a.m.
     Anyone else see a problem?Guardian 3/22/05 8:23 a.m.
           Re: Anyone else see a problem?Chilly Cha Cha 3/22/05 8:46 a.m.
                 Re: Anyone else see a problem?Elfum 3/22/05 12:54 p.m.
                       Re: Anyone else see a problem?Chilly Cha Cha 3/23/05 7:27 a.m.
           Re: Anyone else see a problem?C-B 3/22/05 8:46 a.m.
     XBL Regular's ViewCalvin Chaos 3/22/05 8:29 a.m.
           Re: XBL Regular's ViewGil Galahad 3/22/05 4:28 p.m.
     And what does our good friend Frankie have to say?StarMan343 3/22/05 8:37 a.m.
           Re: And what does our good friend Frankie have to KilgoreTrout XL 3/22/05 8:55 a.m.
     So let's get this straight...17 3/22/05 9:18 a.m.
     MAY 24TH IS MY BIRTHDAY .... AWESOME!MarkHawk 3/22/05 9:34 a.m.
           Re: MAY 24TH IS MY BIRTHDAY .... AWESOME!nighthawk127127 3/22/05 10:28 a.m.
                 Re: MAY 24TH IS MY BIRTHDAY .... AWESOME!Spec ops Grunt 3/22/05 5:55 p.m.
           Re: MAY 24TH IS MY BIRTHDAY .... AWESOME!Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/22/05 11:08 a.m.
                 24/05/05LaughingManic 3/22/05 2:05 p.m.
                       Re: 24/05/05Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/22/05 2:15 p.m.
           Re: MAY 24TH IS MY BIRTHDAY .... AWESOME!lord beefington 3/22/05 2:23 p.m.
                 Re: MAY 24TH IS MY BIRTHDAY .... AWESOME!Gil Galahad 3/22/05 4:32 p.m.
                 Re: MAY 24TH IS MY BIRTHDAY .... AWESOME!xJasterx 3/22/05 4:36 p.m.
           Re: MAY 24TH IS MY BIRTHDAY .... AWESOME!Gil Galahad 3/22/05 4:30 p.m.
                 Re: MAY 24TH IS MY BIRTHDAY .... AWESOME!MarkHawk 3/22/05 8:53 p.m.
     Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack LinkLeprechaun 3/22/05 10:32 a.m.
     Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack LinkMajor Scope077 3/22/05 11:07 a.m.
     I will feel taken advantage ofZytz 3/22/05 11:13 a.m.
           word! *NM*Epyon 3/22/05 11:22 a.m.
           This makes perfect sense.PJHammer 3/22/05 11:30 a.m.
                 Re: This makes perfect sense.Joeth 3/22/05 11:34 a.m.
                       Re: This makes perfect sense.th3gh05t 3/22/05 11:37 a.m.
                             Re: This makes perfect sense.madaemanon 3/22/05 11:55 a.m.
                                   lol - not in my house. :) *NM*Louis Wu 3/22/05 12:10 p.m.
           Re: I will feel taken advantage ofBungiefan 3/22/05 1:58 p.m.
           Re: I will feel taken advantage ofradda 3/22/05 5:03 p.m.
     Things to consider...DJSi 3/22/05 11:46 a.m.
           The EB Games link is now down...Pete 3/22/05 11:55 a.m.
                 Re: The EB Games link is now down...RedMage13 3/22/05 11:58 a.m.
           Re: Things to consider...Echoes 3/22/05 5:10 p.m.
     Item has been taken off the site, any copies? *NM*TigerHawk 3/22/05 11:48 a.m.
           you people...madaemanon 3/22/05 12:00 p.m.
           Re: Item has been taken off the site, any copies?TheLethalSpartan 3/22/05 12:09 p.m.
                 HERE IS A COPY!!!TheLethalSpartan 3/22/05 12:18 p.m.
                       Re: HERE IS A COPY!!!Evergreen98 3/22/05 12:44 p.m.
                             Re: HERE IS A COPY!!!TheLethalSpartan 3/22/05 1:18 p.m.
                             Be Firm...With Your OpinionTitanian 3/22/05 10:25 p.m.
                                   Re: Be Firm...With Your OpinionLouis Wu 3/23/05 8:36 a.m.
                                   Re: Be Firm...With Your OpinionUsul 3/23/05 3:31 p.m.
                       Re: HERE IS A COPY!!!spaartan117 3/22/05 12:44 p.m.
                             Re: HERE IS A COPY!!!Hikaru-119 3/22/05 12:47 p.m.
                       Re: HERE IS A COPY!!!Louis Wu 3/22/05 12:46 p.m.
                             Re: HERE IS A COPY!!!spaartan117 3/22/05 12:53 p.m.
     Only $20?Hikaru-119 3/22/05 12:03 p.m.
           Re: Only $20?spaartan117 3/22/05 12:07 p.m.
                 Re: Only $20?sorahn 3/22/05 12:44 p.m.
                       Re: Only $20?KilgoreTrout XL 3/22/05 1:05 p.m.
           Re: Only $20?Zytz 3/22/05 1:24 p.m.
                 Re: Only $20?TROCKS 3/22/05 1:39 p.m.
                 Re: Only $20?Schedonnardus 3/22/05 2:01 p.m.
                 Re: Only $20?Admiral Adam 3/22/05 2:42 p.m.
           Re: Only $20?Dark Bastion 3/22/05 8:10 p.m.
                 Re: Only $20?Echoes 3/22/05 8:43 p.m.
                 Re: Only $20?Hikaru-119 3/23/05 10:33 a.m.
     Oopsie Daisy!FireVurm 3/22/05 12:25 p.m.
           Re: Oopsie Daisy!brennos 3/22/05 1:14 p.m.
                 Re: Oopsie Daisy!Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/22/05 1:53 p.m.
                       Re: Oopsie Daisy!brennos 3/22/05 2:15 p.m.
                             Re: Oopsie Daisy!Louis Wu 3/22/05 2:32 p.m.
                                   And of course, your guesses are as good as ours ;) *NM*spaartan117 3/22/05 2:41 p.m.
                                   Re: Oopsie Daisy!brennos 3/22/05 2:44 p.m.
                                         Re: Oopsie Daisy!Covi 3/22/05 2:48 p.m.
                                   I rite 2 slo. *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/22/05 2:53 p.m.
                                   Re: Oopsie Daisy!JudgeJuryExecutioner 3/22/05 3:40 p.m.
                             Re: Oopsie Daisy!Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/22/05 2:48 p.m.
                                   Re: Oopsie Daisy!FireVurm 4/5/05 3:45 p.m.
     Weekly updateCovi 3/22/05 2:40 p.m.
           My 2 cents.Vengado 3/22/05 2:55 p.m.
                 Re: My 2 cents.Covi 3/22/05 3:00 p.m.
                       Re: My 2 cents.Jyester 3/22/05 3:25 p.m.
                       Re: My 2 cents.Vengado 3/22/05 4:33 p.m.
                             Re: My 2 cents.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/22/05 4:40 p.m.
                 Re: My 2 cents.Ultra Sonic 007 3/22/05 3:50 p.m.
                       Re: My 2 cents.another guy 3/22/05 4:30 p.m.
                             Re: My 2 cents.Echoes 3/22/05 5:30 p.m.
                                   In your pocket, of course ^^ *NM* *NM*cure1245 3/24/05 10:48 p.m.
     We are already paying for Live. Why pay $20?Major Scope077 3/22/05 4:54 p.m.
           Re: We are already paying for Live. Why pay $20?Duper Man 3/22/05 5:05 p.m.
                 ^^^Agreed.Flashman 3/22/05 11:34 p.m.
     Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack LinkZ1QR20 3/22/05 5:18 p.m.
     It's Still There (Just Hidden)GodPanda 3/22/05 5:38 p.m.
     Some elaborate plot...Earths_Reclaimer 3/22/05 7:10 p.m.
           Re: Some elaborate plot...Covi 3/22/05 9:04 p.m.
                 !!HOW TO AVOID PAYING $20!!Halo-2 3/23/05 5:32 p.m.
                       Re: !!HOW TO AVOID PAYING $20!!Halo-2 3/23/05 5:35 p.m.
                             Re: !!HOW TO AVOID PAYING $20!!th3gh05t 3/23/05 6:49 p.m.
     Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack LinkLeprechaun 3/23/05 6:40 p.m.
           hmmmmActiveCamoElite 3/24/05 5:32 p.m.
     Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack Linkarmatidge 3/24/05 8:59 p.m.
     Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack Linksurgamus 3/25/05 7:21 a.m.
           Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack LinkSlith [Subnova] 3/25/05 7:29 a.m.
                 Re: EBGames Halo 2 X-pack Link58 3/25/05 8:17 a.m.



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