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Re: Volunteers: Habe Quiddam
Posted By: Hamish SinclairDate: 8/12/01 3:22 a.m.

In Response To: Volunteers: Habe Quiddam (Mark Levin)

: Habe Quiddam, Habe Qiddam, Habe Quidam... another great level, joining The
: Rose and G4 Sunbathing among my all-time favorites. It also has the best
: music in the game (the last level comes up a close second).

: This level has a very different type of design from most of the others in the
: game. It's very interconnected and almost non-linear, it doubles back on
: itself many times and reuses rooms in interesting ways. It also uses
: heights to great effect, most rooms have at least two paths through them
: at different levels. The player is constantly rediscovering things, and
: being led back to see previous areas from a new angle. These two concepts
: weren't widely used until second- and third-generation maps, like those
: made for Marathon Infinity or games with true-3D engines. Just another way
: that Marathon was ahead of its time.

: The first terminal on this level has a secret, one that makes the level
: somewhat easier to figure out. When Durandal displays the location of the
: alien energy converter, he does so by means of a checkpoint centered on
: the item. However, at the beginning of the level, the item is locked
: inside of several platforms marked Secret, which causes the checkpoint
: display code to not draw any polygons beyond them (relative to where it
: started). The checkpoint appears to be placed inside an isolated, small,
: strangely shaped room that is very hard to find within the level. If you
: go through the level and return to the first terminal without getting the
: converter, you will probably have opened the platforms along the way. This
: nullifies the Secret flag, and the terminal displays much more of the
: level, making the converter much easier to find.

Ah very nice Mark! I don't believe this has ever been documented before. I certainly was unaware of this and it makes the level so much easier, particularly when you reach the two tall pillars in the lava room. You know one of them has an elevator hidden inside.

This level is certainly Jason Jones at his best. The split level design generates a constant feeling of deja-vu, even right up to the end.

This is the level the Marathon updater 1.1 was designed to fix. Nasty bug at the exit terminal.

Habe Quiddam is also the most difficult level to Vidmaster of all 88 solo levels. Don't believe me? Then try it yourself or ask those that have tried to Vidmaster the complete series. There is one point on the map that makes the level the toughest. I'll let you discover that yourselves.

Cheers
Hamish

What did the Marathon 1.1 updater fix?


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Volunteers: Habe QuiddamMark Levin 8/11/01 2:13 p.m.
     Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/11/01 3:38 p.m.
     Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamHamish Sinclair 8/12/01 3:22 a.m.
           Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/12/01 10:02 a.m.
           Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamJohn Sumner 8/12/01 3:27 p.m.
                 Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamMark Levin 8/12/01 4:11 p.m.
                       Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamJeff 8/13/01 9:28 a.m.
                 Read Me!Sidoh 8/14/01 8:16 a.m.
                       Re: Read Me!Hamish Sinclair 8/14/01 9:33 a.m.
                             Viding: I try & die *NM*Still Thinking 8/14/01 2:29 p.m.
                             Re: Read Me!Sidoh 8/14/01 2:59 p.m.
                       Don't Read Me *NM*Still Thinking 8/14/01 2:29 p.m.
                             Bite Me *NM*get azure 8/15/01 7:15 p.m.
                 Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamHamish Sinclair 8/14/01 12:30 p.m.
                       Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamJohn Sumner 8/14/01 3:12 p.m.
                             Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/14/01 4:36 p.m.
                                   Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamMark Levin 8/14/01 7:26 p.m.
                                         Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/16/01 9:13 a.m.
                                   Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/18/01 7:37 p.m.
                                         Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSpeaker-To-Animals 8/18/01 8:00 p.m.
                                               Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamREB 8/19/01 5:29 a.m.
                                                     Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamHamish Sinclair 8/19/01 5:35 a.m.
                                               Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/19/01 7:45 a.m.
                             Re: Volunteers: Habe Quiddam7revor Smith 8/14/01 7:23 p.m.
                                   Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamJohn Sumner 8/15/01 5:36 a.m.
                                         Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/15/01 6:50 a.m.
                                         Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/15/01 6:52 a.m.
                                               Ug, One of these shouldnt be here...Sidoh 8/15/01 6:56 a.m.
                                         Re: Volunteers: Habe Quiddam7revor Smith 8/15/01 8:22 a.m.
                                               Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamHamish Sinclair 8/15/01 9:15 a.m.
                                                     Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/15/01 9:41 a.m.
                                                     Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/15/01 9:44 a.m.
                                                     Re: Volunteers: Habe Quiddam7revor Smith 8/15/01 11:28 a.m.
                                                           Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/15/01 11:44 a.m.
                                                     Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSoapstone 8/15/01 12:11 p.m.
                                                           Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamHamish Sinclair 8/15/01 12:30 p.m.
                                                           Re: Volunteers: Habe Quiddamrae 6/18/03 12:48 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamHamish Sinclair 6/19/03 9:43 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamGholsbane 6/19/03 10:35 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamHamish Sinclair 6/20/03 11:23 a.m.
                                                     Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/16/01 8:59 a.m.
                                                           Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamHamish Sinclair 8/16/01 11:08 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamSidoh 8/16/01 12:16 p.m.
     Re: Volunteers: Habe QuiddamJeff 8/13/01 9:25 a.m.



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