Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?


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Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?

Posted By: Steve Levinson Date: 8/26/04 12:04 p.m.
In Response To: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? (goran)

: This is to levinson and adam, and probably everybody who thinks the same way.
: I'm so against you (no offense intended).
: You want marathon be a 3d game like quake, you want fog, awesome graphics,
: why don't you go and play unreal or something.
My interest is not in all the fancy 3D graphics - it's in being sure that I can play Marathon for another 10 years, and beyond. Simple analogy - Think you can open a document created 10 years ago with a computer bought this year? Think again. Think your computer could run the same softward that created that document 10 years ago? Probably not. Think Word 2004 can open a document created by Word 1.0? Nope. The reason - the only reason I want to see Marathon and all its sequels and 3rd party offspring ported to a more modern platform is so that they will be playable for the coming decade, after which the process will probably need to be repeated. Lets just say I'm a bit less optimistic that AO will be upgraded as OS XI, XII and XIII come out. Ditto for Win - whatever follows. If importing Marathon to a newer engine allows mapmakers to add new features, great, but that's not the primary reason why I want to see this done. From a programming standpoint, writing a map editor is a lot easier than writing a game engine. Being able to import Marathon maps into a new engine will be challenging - I'll acknowlege that - but probably still more worthwhile than trying to continually update an outdated engine. Please don't get me wrong - I'm greatful for Loren Petrich and all the open source guys working on AO, I just feel and have always felt (read my posts from 2 years ago) that adding new features to AO is not the top priority. That need would be better addressed by moving on to a completely new code base.

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Forge Source Code Adam Ashwell 8/24/04 1:38 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code D-M.A. 8/24/04 4:23 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Adam Ashwell 8/24/04 4:24 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Tim Vogel (Earthquake software) 8/24/04 6:13 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Mark Levin 8/24/04 6:51 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code goran 8/24/04 11:36 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Forrest of B.org 8/24/04 3:22 p.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Steve Levinson 8/24/04 6:53 p.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Lunair 8/24/04 8:05 p.m.

Re: Forge Source Code goran 8/24/04 10:22 p.m.

Re: Forge Source Code D-M.A. 8/25/04 2:23 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Steve Levinson 8/25/04 4:03 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Adam Ashwell 8/25/04 4:07 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Johannes Gunnar 8/25/04 4:51 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code a disreputable source 8/25/04 8:22 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Steve Levinson 8/25/04 9:05 a.m.

Re: Forge Source Code a disreputable source 8/25/04 3:26 p.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Steve Levinson 8/25/04 4:27 p.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Lunair 8/25/04 10:26 p.m.

Re: Forge Source Code Adam Ashwell 8/26/04 1:30 a.m.

OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? goran 8/25/04 11:43 p.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? Adam Ashwell 8/26/04 1:37 a.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? goran 8/26/04 3:31 a.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? blake37 8/26/04 10:39 a.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? Little Kago 8/26/04 6:51 p.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? Simon of team Sigma 8/26/04 6:56 p.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? Little Kago 8/26/04 8:26 p.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? goran 8/26/04 11:03 p.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? Steve Levinson 8/27/04 3:02 a.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? Adam Ashwell 8/27/04 2:42 a.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? Document 8/27/04 7:29 a.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? Document 8/27/04 7:28 a.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? goran 8/27/04 9:18 a.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? Lunair 8/27/04 10:44 a.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? ukimalefu 8/27/04 12:20 p.m.

Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!? Steve Levinson 8/26/04 12:04 p.m.

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: My interest is not in all the fancy 3D graphics - it's in being sure that I : can play Marathon for another 10 years, and beyond. Simple analogy - Think : you can open a document created 10 years ago with a computer bought this : year? Think again. Think your computer could run the same softward that : created that document 10 years ago? Probably not. Think Word 2004 can open : a document created by Word 1.0? Nope. The reason - the only reason I want : to see Marathon and all its sequels and 3rd party offspring ported to a : more modern platform is so that they will be playable for the coming : decade, after which the process will probably need to be repeated. Lets : just say I'm a bit less optimistic that AO will be upgraded as OS XI, XII : and XIII come out. Ditto for Win - whatever follows. If importing Marathon : to a newer engine allows mapmakers to add new features, great, but that's : not the primary reason why I want to see this done. From a programming : standpoint, writing a map editor is a lot easier than writing a game : engine. Being able to import Marathon maps into a new engine will be : challenging - I'll acknowlege that - but probably still more worthwhile : than trying to continually update an outdated engine. Please don't get me : wrong - I'm greatful for Loren Petrich and all the open source guys : working on AO, I just feel and have always felt (read my posts from 2 : years ago) that adding new features to AO is not the top priority. That : need would be better addressed by moving on to a completely new code base.

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Forge Source Code	Adam Ashwell	8/24/04 1:38 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	D-M.A.	8/24/04 4:23 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Adam Ashwell	8/24/04 4:24 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Tim Vogel (Earthquake software)	8/24/04 6:13 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Mark Levin	8/24/04 6:51 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	goran	8/24/04 11:36 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Forrest of B.org	8/24/04 3:22 p.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Steve Levinson	8/24/04 6:53 p.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Lunair	8/24/04 8:05 p.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	goran	8/24/04 10:22 p.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	D-M.A.	8/25/04 2:23 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Steve Levinson	8/25/04 4:03 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Adam Ashwell	8/25/04 4:07 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Johannes Gunnar	8/25/04 4:51 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	a disreputable source	8/25/04 8:22 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Steve Levinson	8/25/04 9:05 a.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	a disreputable source	8/25/04 3:26 p.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Steve Levinson	8/25/04 4:27 p.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Lunair	8/25/04 10:26 p.m.
Re: Forge Source Code	Adam Ashwell	8/26/04 1:30 a.m.
OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	goran	8/25/04 11:43 p.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	Adam Ashwell	8/26/04 1:37 a.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	goran	8/26/04 3:31 a.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	blake37	8/26/04 10:39 a.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	Little Kago	8/26/04 6:51 p.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	Simon of team Sigma	8/26/04 6:56 p.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	Little Kago	8/26/04 8:26 p.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	goran	8/26/04 11:03 p.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	Steve Levinson	8/27/04 3:02 a.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	Adam Ashwell	8/27/04 2:42 a.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	Document	8/27/04 7:29 a.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	Document	8/27/04 7:28 a.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	goran	8/27/04 9:18 a.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	Lunair	8/27/04 10:44 a.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	ukimalefu	8/27/04 12:20 p.m.
Re: OMG guys, watcha doing!?!?	Steve Levinson	8/26/04 12:04 p.m.



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	Message: : My interest is not in all the fancy 3D graphics - it's in being sure that I : can play Marathon for another 10 years, and beyond. Simple analogy - Think : you can open a document created 10 years ago with a computer bought this : year? Think again. Think your computer could run the same softward that : created that document 10 years ago? Probably not. Think Word 2004 can open : a document created by Word 1.0? Nope. The reason - the only reason I want : to see Marathon and all its sequels and 3rd party offspring ported to a : more modern platform is so that they will be playable for the coming : decade, after which the process will probably need to be repeated. Lets : just say I'm a bit less optimistic that AO will be upgraded as OS XI, XII : and XIII come out. Ditto for Win - whatever follows. If importing Marathon : to a newer engine allows mapmakers to add new features, great, but that's : not the primary reason why I want to see this done. From a programming : standpoint, writing a map editor is a lot easier than writing a game : engine. Being able to import Marathon maps into a new engine will be : challenging - I'll acknowlege that - but probably still more worthwhile : than trying to continually update an outdated engine. Please don't get me : wrong - I'm greatful for Loren Petrich and all the open source guys : working on AO, I just feel and have always felt (read my posts from 2 : years ago) that adding new features to AO is not the top priority. That : need would be better addressed by moving on to a completely new code base.
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