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Re: RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Etern

Posted By: Forrest of B.org Date: 4/2/04 3:07 p.m.
In Response To: RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Eternal? (Ernie)

: While thinking about Forrest's Marathon Eternal timeline, I may have come
: across an potential extended mara-verse justification for the use of the
: Flood (of Halo fame) in Eternal’s outline.
: It's been hypothesized (almost to the point where I consider it canon) that
: the Jjaro were once organic beings, whom after a time eschewed their
: biological forms for the convience of digital/mechanical bodies.
: Forrest's use of the Flood in M:Eternal's outline (linking the Forerunners to
: the Jjaro, thus Marathon Universe to the Halo Ring constructs) could still
: work - but separate from the alternate Halo universe we know.
: The Jjaro could have indeed created ring constructs, with their purpose of
: exterminating an biological threat to all sentient life in the Marathon
: timeline - but as opposed to the Flood, Joshua and his organics
: [how/whenever they came into existence] could serve this function in
: Eternal.
: I'm unsure if Ian covered the creation story of the Organics and Joshua's
: presence, but I think it would be an interesting extrapolation. From what
: I recal of Red’s terminals, Ian loved an apparent lack of dates that could
: orient his scenario to the original trilogy.
: Why do I propose such odd things? Because that's what I do. ;)
: I’m curious to know people’s take on this.
That's actually quite an interesting idea... and it would give me some kind of enemy to put in Chapter 5, since it's currently barren because I don't want to try to create crappy Flood and stick them in Marathon.
However, there may be some problems, depending on how exactly these Organics work (I never played more than a level of two of RED. It came out right about the time I left Marathon). The reason why the Forerunners/Jjaro used the Halos is because the Flood were organic PARASITES. They couldn't defeat the Flood in combat because for every one of them fallen the Flood gained another. Soon most of their fleet was taken over.
If it had just been some horribly powerful evil threat, they could have just sent in wave after wave and probably lost a lot of people but still eventually beaten them back. (Hell now that I think about it why wouldn't they have just used something like the trih xeem either way?)
It would also completely separate Eternal from Halo proper, as on not even separate timelines really but separate whole realities. I like the concept of Eternal stretching back from Marathon to a point where the Halo and Marathon universes were the same. (Though I was careful not to make any present-time connection between the two; some people were suggesting to me OMG HATHOR SHOULD BE CORTANA and HEY YEAH MB U R TEH MASTR CHEF!, and I just said ....No). But it's still an interesting notion to play with, mostly because it gives me something to kill in chapter 5.
I'll think about it and try to see if I can reconcile these things...

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RED Volunteers: Floating in Agony Mark Levin 4/1/04 8:32 a.m.

Re: RED Volunteers: Floating in Agony Steve Levinson 4/1/04 9:22 a.m.

Re: RED Volunteers: Floating in Agony Mark Levin 4/1/04 12:02 p.m.

Re: RED Volunteers: Floating in Agony Dr. John Sumner 4/1/04 9:23 a.m.

RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Eternal? Ernie 4/2/04 2:46 p.m.

Re: RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Etern Forrest of B.org 4/2/04 3:07 p.m.

Re: RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Etern Mista_B 4/2/04 3:53 p.m.

Re: RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Etern Ernie 4/2/04 5:19 p.m.

Re: RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Etern Forrest of B.org 4/6/04 1:33 p.m.

Re: RED's Organics potentially utilized in Eternal Forrest of B.org 4/6/04 1:35 p.m.

Re: RED Volunteers: Floating in Agony Andrew Nagy 4/3/04 6:50 p.m.

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: That's actually quite an interesting idea... and it would give me some kind : of enemy to put in Chapter 5, since it's currently barren because I don't : want to try to create crappy Flood and stick them in Marathon. : However, there may be some problems, depending on how exactly these Organics : work (I never played more than a level of two of RED. It came out right : about the time I left Marathon). The reason why the Forerunners/Jjaro used : the Halos is because the Flood were organic PARASITES. They couldn't : defeat the Flood in combat because for every one of them fallen the Flood : gained another. Soon most of their fleet was taken over. : If it had just been some horribly powerful evil threat, they could have just : sent in wave after wave and probably lost a lot of people but still : eventually beaten them back. (Hell now that I think about it why wouldn't : they have just used something like the trih xeem either way?) : It would also completely separate Eternal from Halo proper, as on not even : separate timelines really but separate whole realities. I like the concept : of Eternal stretching back from Marathon to a point where the Halo and : Marathon universes were the same. (Though I was careful not to make any : present-time connection between the two; some people were suggesting to me : OMG HATHOR SHOULD BE CORTANA and HEY YEAH MB U R TEH MASTR CHEF!, and I : just said ....No). But it's still an interesting notion to play with, : mostly because it gives me something to kill in chapter 5. : I'll think about it and try to see if I can reconcile these things...

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RED Volunteers: Floating in Agony	Mark Levin	4/1/04 8:32 a.m.
Re: RED Volunteers: Floating in Agony	Steve Levinson	4/1/04 9:22 a.m.
Re: RED Volunteers: Floating in Agony	Mark Levin	4/1/04 12:02 p.m.
Re: RED Volunteers: Floating in Agony	Dr. John Sumner	4/1/04 9:23 a.m.
RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Eternal?	Ernie	4/2/04 2:46 p.m.
Re: RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Etern	Forrest of B.org	4/2/04 3:07 p.m.
Re: RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Etern	Mista_B	4/2/04 3:53 p.m.
Re: RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Etern	Ernie	4/2/04 5:19 p.m.
Re: RED's Organics potentially utilized in M:Etern	Forrest of B.org	4/6/04 1:33 p.m.
Re: RED's Organics potentially utilized in Eternal	Forrest of B.org	4/6/04 1:35 p.m.
Re: RED Volunteers: Floating in Agony	Andrew Nagy	4/3/04 6:50 p.m.



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	Message: : That's actually quite an interesting idea... and it would give me some kind : of enemy to put in Chapter 5, since it's currently barren because I don't : want to try to create crappy Flood and stick them in Marathon. : However, there may be some problems, depending on how exactly these Organics : work (I never played more than a level of two of RED. It came out right : about the time I left Marathon). The reason why the Forerunners/Jjaro used : the Halos is because the Flood were organic PARASITES. They couldn't : defeat the Flood in combat because for every one of them fallen the Flood : gained another. Soon most of their fleet was taken over. : If it had just been some horribly powerful evil threat, they could have just : sent in wave after wave and probably lost a lot of people but still : eventually beaten them back. (Hell now that I think about it why wouldn't : they have just used something like the trih xeem either way?) : It would also completely separate Eternal from Halo proper, as on not even : separate timelines really but separate whole realities. I like the concept : of Eternal stretching back from Marathon to a point where the Halo and : Marathon universes were the same. (Though I was careful not to make any : present-time connection between the two; some people were suggesting to me : OMG HATHOR SHOULD BE CORTANA and HEY YEAH MB U R TEH MASTR CHEF!, and I : just said ....No). But it's still an interesting notion to play with, : mostly because it gives me something to kill in chapter 5. : I'll think about it and try to see if I can reconcile these things...
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