Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse


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Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse

Posted By: Yossarian Date: 4/2/04 11:39 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse (Forrest of B.org)

: Technically speaking, if you were to pronounce English PERFECTLY, it would
: sound slightly Scottish. Just SLIGHTLY. I read some study about it once
: and they found a village in Scotland that had the "best" English
: accent. (By that accent, it'd be pronounced "Ey-dihn-boor[gh]",
: with the final "g" sound aspirated and deemphasized).
Where I come from originally, it's "Eddin-boro", because there's no one there with the guts to correct us.
: And also technically, old Scottish (the kind that says things like
: "ken" for "know") is not actually English but a
: closely related and mostly mutually intelligable language.
Old Scottish is more of a Celtic language, and therefore not closely related to English, although they are both Indo-European languages. Old Scottish was in the Celtic family while Old English is a Germanic language, very similar at the time to Old Flemish.
: And also - WTF is up with French? They claim it's a Romance language, but
: it's like they took Latin, added a bunch of extra letters, made some
: syllables silent, and changed both the spelling and the pronunciation...
It's Latin corrupted by the Germanic vernacular of the Franks, as opposed to the Germanic vernacular of the Franks having been corrupetd by Latin. Latin took dominance because it was the language of the church, the bureaucracy, the military, and the law. It is a true Romance language, the "Romance" being derived from "Roma", the capital of the Roman Empire, whose dominant language was Latin, and now forms the structure for such Languages as Italian, French, Romansch, Rumanian, Spanish, Portuguese, and a handful of other languages found scattered around the Meditteranean, including Corsican. Not bad for a 3000 year old tribal language.
As for criticizing the spelling, pronunciation, and syllable characteristics of French, well, I'd say as an English speaker you really don't have much room to talk. French may have those things, but it also has rules for them and they are typically followed, whereas English has a thick and confusing web of exceptions, and this is why it is considered one of the harder languages to learn.

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: Where I come from originally, it's "Eddin-boro", because there's no : one there with the guts to correct us. : Old Scottish is more of a Celtic language, and therefore not closely related : to English, although they are both Indo-European languages. Old Scottish : was in the Celtic family while Old English is a Germanic language, very : similar at the time to Old Flemish. : It's Latin corrupted by the Germanic vernacular of the Franks, as opposed to : the Germanic vernacular of the Franks having been corrupetd by Latin. : Latin took dominance because it was the language of the church, the : bureaucracy, the military, and the law. It is a true Romance language, the : "Romance" being derived from "Roma", the capital of : the Roman Empire, whose dominant language was Latin, and now forms the : structure for such Languages as Italian, French, Romansch, Rumanian, : Spanish, Portuguese, and a handful of other languages found scattered : around the Meditteranean, including Corsican. Not bad for a 3000 year old : tribal language. : As for criticizing the spelling, pronunciation, and syllable characteristics : of French, well, I'd say as an English speaker you really don't have much : room to talk. French may have those things, but it also has rules for them : and they are typically followed, whereas English has a thick and confusing : web of exceptions, and this is why it is considered one of the harder : languages to learn.

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Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Yossarian	4/2/04 12:20 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	zudo	4/2/04 3:24 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Yossarian	4/2/04 4:34 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	zudo	4/2/04 6:40 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Forrest of B.org	4/2/04 7:34 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Forrest of B.org	4/2/04 7:38 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Yossarian	4/2/04 11:39 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Forrest of B.org	4/2/04 12:41 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Yossarian	4/2/04 1:24 p.m.
You guys keep this up...	Anaphiel	4/2/04 1:34 p.m.
Re: You guys keep this up...	Yossarian	4/2/04 2:02 p.m.
Re: You guys keep this up...	Anaphiel	4/2/04 2:42 p.m.
Re: You guys keep this up...	zudo	4/3/04 7:09 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Elliott	4/2/04 8:53 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	zudo	4/3/04 7:04 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Todd.	4/2/04 10:42 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	zudo	4/3/04 6:54 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Steve Levinson	4/3/04 9:50 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	zudo	4/4/04 6:27 a.m.



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