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Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse

Posted By: Forrest of B.org Date: 4/2/04 12:41 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse (Yossarian)

: Where I come from originally, it's "Eddin-boro", because there's no
: one there with the guts to correct us.
: Old Scottish is more of a Celtic language, and therefore not closely related
: to English, although they are both Indo-European languages. Old Scottish
: was in the Celtic family while Old English is a Germanic language, very
: similar at the time to Old Flemish.
That was "old Scottish" with a lower-case "o", to distinguish from English as spoken in Scottland today (which some might call "Scottish", incorrectly). Old Scottish being an ancestor of Scottish. And are you sure it's entirely Celtic? I can see Celtic parts in it, just as English has French parts, but I saw an IE language chart somewhere that claimed something like "many linguists consider Scottish to be a variant of English, while in fact it is an offshoot from earlier in the tree, closely related to, but not a variant of, English."
: It's Latin corrupted by the Germanic vernacular of the Franks
Right.
: as opposed to
: the Germanic vernacular of the Franks having been corrupetd by Latin.
Like English.
: Latin took dominance because it was the language of the church, the
: bureaucracy, the military, and the law. It is a true Romance language, the
: "Romance" being derived from "Roma", the capital of
: the Roman Empire, whose dominant language was Latin, and now forms the
: structure for such Languages as Italian, French, Romansch, Rumanian,
: Spanish, Portuguese, and a handful of other languages found scattered
: around the Meditteranean, including Corsican. Not bad for a 3000 year old
: tribal language.
Right right right.
: As for criticizing the spelling, pronunciation, and syllable characteristics
: of French, well, I'd say as an English speaker you really don't have much
: room to talk. French may have those things, but it also has rules for them
: and they are typically followed, whereas English has a thick and confusing
: web of exceptions, and this is why it is considered one of the harder
: languages to learn.
I hate English too, though it's mostly because modern English is a mushpot of other languages and their conventions intermixed. Old English actually made some sense, at least as much as French. I just think French is funky from a purely design viewpoint - how does something like "-eaux" make an "oh" sound? (I can see how "ea-ooh", the 'x' being pronounced as an aspirant, could devolve over centuries into a single dipthong that eventually becomes "oh", but then just drop the damn letters already!) Same thing for "-ois" being pronounced "ua", etc.
VIVA LA QUENYA! ;-)
-Tauron Erufailonissi

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: That was "old Scottish" with a lower-case "o", to : distinguish from English as spoken in Scottland today (which some might : call "Scottish", incorrectly). Old Scottish being an ancestor of : Scottish. And are you sure it's entirely Celtic? I can see Celtic parts in : it, just as English has French parts, but I saw an IE language chart : somewhere that claimed something like "many linguists consider : Scottish to be a variant of English, while in fact it is an offshoot from : earlier in the tree, closely related to, but not a variant of, : English." : Right. : Like English. : Right right right. : I hate English too, though it's mostly because modern English is a mushpot of : other languages and their conventions intermixed. Old English actually : made some sense, at least as much as French. I just think French is funky : from a purely design viewpoint - how does something like "-eaux" : make an "oh" sound? (I can see how "ea-ooh", the 'x' : being pronounced as an aspirant, could devolve over centuries into a : single dipthong that eventually becomes "oh", but then just drop : the damn letters already!) Same thing for "-ois" being : pronounced "ua", etc. : VIVA LA QUENYA! ;-) : -Tauron Erufailonissi

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Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Yossarian	4/2/04 12:20 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	zudo	4/2/04 3:24 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Yossarian	4/2/04 4:34 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	zudo	4/2/04 6:40 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Forrest of B.org	4/2/04 7:34 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Forrest of B.org	4/2/04 7:38 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Yossarian	4/2/04 11:39 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Forrest of B.org	4/2/04 12:41 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Yossarian	4/2/04 1:24 p.m.
You guys keep this up...	Anaphiel	4/2/04 1:34 p.m.
Re: You guys keep this up...	Yossarian	4/2/04 2:02 p.m.
Re: You guys keep this up...	Anaphiel	4/2/04 2:42 p.m.
Re: You guys keep this up...	zudo	4/3/04 7:09 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Elliott	4/2/04 8:53 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	zudo	4/3/04 7:04 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Todd.	4/2/04 10:42 p.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	zudo	4/3/04 6:54 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	Steve Levinson	4/3/04 9:50 a.m.
Re: Rubicon Volunteers - Like Flies on a Corpse	zudo	4/4/04 6:27 a.m.



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	Message: : That was "old Scottish" with a lower-case "o", to : distinguish from English as spoken in Scottland today (which some might : call "Scottish", incorrectly). Old Scottish being an ancestor of : Scottish. And are you sure it's entirely Celtic? I can see Celtic parts in : it, just as English has French parts, but I saw an IE language chart : somewhere that claimed something like "many linguists consider : Scottish to be a variant of English, while in fact it is an offshoot from : earlier in the tree, closely related to, but not a variant of, : English." : Right. : Like English. : Right right right. : I hate English too, though it's mostly because modern English is a mushpot of : other languages and their conventions intermixed. Old English actually : made some sense, at least as much as French. I just think French is funky : from a purely design viewpoint - how does something like "-eaux" : make an "oh" sound? (I can see how "ea-ooh", the 'x' : being pronounced as an aspirant, could devolve over centuries into a : single dipthong that eventually becomes "oh", but then just drop : the damn letters already!) Same thing for "-ois" being : pronounced "ua", etc. : VIVA LA QUENYA! ;-) : -Tauron Erufailonissi
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