|Re: Marathon mentioned in Outside Xbox Video|
|Posted By: Lion O Cyborg||Date: 2/26/21 9:40 a.m.|
In Response To: Re: Marathon mentioned in Outside Xbox Video (VikingBoyBilly)
: Let me try and give a perspective from the other side of the fence. It wasn't
: This might be a foreign concept for the younger babies of the new millenium
: The Mac versions of Prince of Persia and Lemmings and Odell Down Under are
: I think Marathon and Pathways into darkness did a good job at finding a
: Once upon a time, my dad got a new G3 and a ZIP drive, and they had a few
: And having been exposed to them at a time "before they were cool"
: It's not that I didn't like it; I would spend many bored afternoons wandering
: Several years later in highschool, I was at a friend's house playing halo,
: Years later Aleph One would come out and I'd get to play it for free, and
: So it was ahead of its time (as was Earthbound), but there's a happy twist;
: And DOSBOX introduced me to stuff like Commander Keen! But the mac os 9
: So in TL;DR, I appreciate the immense amount of love and work that went into
: Thank you for putting up with my long ramblings, and now I need to go to bed.
That's fine, thank you. :)
On the subject of alternate perspectives, I was a mid 90s kid who only grew up in the 2000s so I actually missed out on quite a lot of mainstream games from that time in favour of other 90s ones and a few 2000s ones, not using the internet at all nor comprehending it until I started printing out Stellalune's Tomb Raider 3 walkthroughs in 2004 or 2005. I just discovered wikipedia in 2006 when looking up The Raccoons (it aired fresh on Bommerang that autumn, same time 2007 and has never aired in the UK since) and only used the internet more come 2008 when I discovered youtube back when it didn't suck and Zero Punctuation.
A lot of the games I missed out on were DOS classics too. I only heard of the OS long after I found I couldn't play Tomb Raider 1 natively on the family desktop anymore. I did see my dad play Doom 1's second & third episodes, but my first Doom game when I was that young was the original Doom 3, and I only beat it and the classic Dooms years later after Marathon in 2012. (I was on BFG Edition by that time)
My first shooter was actually Half Life 1 on CD bundled with Opposing Force (if you don't count flight sims like Freespace or Dungeon Keeper's first person mode) followed soon after by Halo 1, Unreal 1 and Quake 2. Since I was used to Tomb Raider 2+3 and Half Life 1, I just assumed that all those fancy 3D enhancements in 2.5D shooters like Build games was simply the done thing, especially as I had no concept of technical limits at the time. That made my foray into 2.5D shooters and fully 2D games that weren't edutainment graphic adventure games for Windows 3.1 a bit of a learning experience.
I knew about consoles thanks to my buddy across the street's Playstation but I was unsure about them as seeing Tomb Raider 2 on his PS1 with alien controls was weird to me, though I loved my cousins' Speed Freaks game on the same console (imagine Mario Kart meets Snoopy) so I was strictly a PC gamer until 2002 when we all got an Xbox for Christmas.
When I saw 2.5D shooters for the first time, it wasn't Doom or Marathon or Rise of the Triad but Duke Nukem Advance on GBA of all things, plus my brother's copy of Wolfenstein on GBA. That led to me playing Duke Nukem 3D in 2009 or 2010 (no games I played ever had the parental locks active), and then tracking down the original 2D games on DOS long after that, followed closely by Commander Keen and Jazz Jackrabbit.
Speaking of elitist puritans, I'm glad Marathon is getting better and slowly more easy to work with with age. After all, the Doom fanbase has its share of toxic purists too, if the Steam forums for Doom 64 and Eternal are anything to go by and that didn't stop some great mods on the engine like BDED, Brutal Doom 64 or Hedon. The plus side of Marathon currently being harder to work with is at least there's no Terry WADs, I'll say that much. :)
But to come back to the stigma against Apple and their older stuff:
Old Windows stuff also gets the shaft and we don't have a DOSbox like simple solution to fix it: some games I loved as a kid including Sesame Street Search & Learn with Sherlock Hemlock (only experience I have with Sesame Street besides a similar but crappy Elmo game), Tonka Construction and a lot of Magic School Bus games no longer work on modern windows. I don't have Virtual Box on my new laptop anymore nor would I know how to set up a decent VM for them. God help me if I decide to play Armed & Delirious one day...
Other old windows games do work but run way too fast, causing an untold number of glitches (like Pro Pinball Timeshock's GOG version) and of course there's on-disk DRM that prevents them running too, like my CD copy of Free Running or Sonic R.
Sorry for rambling myself but I thank you again for your look on the subject. :)
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