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| Re: AI Script | |
| Posted By: dmiller <dmiller@bungie.com> | Date: 8/8/11 9:42 p.m. |
In Response To: Re: AI Script (Gravemind) "Was the move back towards offering more nonlinearity in the vein of Halo 1 a conscious decision?" I think we always want to do the right thing on a per-level basis. Sometimes, whether it be technology or production reasons, we have to skew our missions one way or the other. Non-linearity is expensive, from a production perspective- and even sometimes a technical one. Non-linearity is also the least bang-for-buck way to develop levels. I chose non-linearity on New Alexandria because it was the only way to have people want to replay this level. The linear flying-only missions tend to be a drag upon replay, so giving the player a feeling of freshness everytime they played this level was of utmost importance- that and rarely teleporting coop players around the map. I'd say that if we could have our cake and eat it too, alot of our levels would be non-linear, but there is also something nice about having a straight-up fight, pacing-wise. "Tip of the Spear and Exodus both have rail shooter sequences, which are heavily scripted, have no variation, and offer no player choice. Why were these added into the game?" I'm not going to speak for the reasons why these sections were added, but like I said above, sometimes it's nice pacing-wise to do a straight forward shoot-em-up in the middle. Variety is truly the spice of life and I think they make for a great break in the game. "So, why hasn't there been any attempts at making levels (and by that I mean regular levels) that equal or exceed AotCR in terms of size and openness?" If you recall, Halo 1 also had a fair amount of repeat spaces- which many have not been so kind to. The short answer that I can give is- you only have so many days. If you want variety in levels, it comes at a price, if you want massive levels, it comes at a price as well. If you want great looking environments, it comes at a price. I feel that we made the right choices in Halo 3, ODST, Reach in these areas. Everything costs something. Variety and visual fidelity were both something that design and art felt were important than sheer size. "Was it decided from the get-go to have these kind of encounters in Campaign in order to complement Firefight? Or did these encounters come first and in turn inspired Firefight?" I think it's a bit of both. I can tell you that most of the encounters in ODST were defensive encounters first and Firefight just fit in. "Finally, what's the deal with all the invisible walls and kill barriers in Campaign?" Ah the invisible walls. Well, it all depends on the cases. SOmetimes we put invisible walls in spaces that we've agreed the player should not see- mainly because we don't have the budget of time (see above) to completely build ever square foot of space. Other times it is in response to a bug- people soft crashing (fall in a spot and can't progress). Sometimes it has to do with players getting flung via physics or whatever into or through areas that they shouldn't be or might break the level. Yes, it isn't the best case- I did my best to at least give players the ability to turn off htese with my AJ_MODE script in Halo Reach (New Alexandria and The Package). The people who care about these things will be able to find out how to remove these obstructions. I think part of it is a price we pay for crazy-huge exteriors that we can't custom texture every inch of the way anymore. As for bad design? Not really, but I don't plan on debating it here or anywhere. It's a natural fall-out of tight production times and content pipelines.
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| AI Script | scarab | 8/5/11 4:50 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | scarab | 8/5/11 5:00 a.m. |
| Fixed: AI Script | scarab | 8/5/11 5:26 a.m. |
| Re: Fixed: AI Script | Moorpheusl9 | 8/5/11 6:07 a.m. |
| Re: Fixed: AI Script | scarab | 8/5/11 7:20 a.m. |
| Should've used Python *NM* | JDQuackers | 8/5/11 7:30 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | General Vagueness | 8/5/11 12:30 p.m. |
| HaloScript | kornman00 | 8/5/11 3:17 p.m. |
| Re: HaloScript | scarab | 8/7/11 9:06 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/7/11 1:17 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | scarab | 8/7/11 8:54 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/7/11 9:29 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Moorpheusl9 | 8/7/11 9:33 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/7/11 9:35 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | scarab | 8/7/11 10:12 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/7/11 2:40 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/7/11 5:02 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Louis Wu | 8/7/11 5:15 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/7/11 5:23 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | scarab | 8/8/11 3:34 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/8/11 9:51 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | JonnyOThan | 8/11/11 12:42 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | scarab | 8/11/11 4:32 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/13/11 2:21 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | scarab | 8/13/11 5:27 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | RC Master | 8/7/11 7:41 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/7/11 8:30 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | General Vagueness | 8/7/11 8:36 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/7/11 8:42 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/7/11 8:57 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Hyokin | 8/7/11 9:21 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/7/11 11:03 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/7/11 11:19 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/7/11 11:23 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Hyokin | 8/7/11 11:20 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/7/11 11:22 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/7/11 11:26 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/7/11 11:27 p.m. |
| Welcome to the forums, Dan! | Hyokin | 8/7/11 11:34 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/7/11 11:44 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/7/11 11:45 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | RC Master | 8/8/11 7:10 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Avateur | 8/7/11 11:50 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Hyokin | 8/7/11 11:57 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/8/11 1:17 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | SonofMacPhisto | 8/8/11 6:11 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/8/11 9:54 p.m. |
| Seriously dude, you're awesome *NM* | ZackDark | 8/8/11 10:46 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/7/11 11:50 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Leviathan | 8/8/11 12:11 a.m. |
| I also share this question *NM* | ZackDark | 8/8/11 12:13 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/8/11 1:21 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | General Vagueness | 8/8/11 1:34 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | FyreWulff | 8/8/11 12:41 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/8/11 10:54 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | bluerunner | 8/8/11 11:04 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/8/11 8:54 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | FyreWulff | 8/9/11 4:56 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Hyokin | 8/8/11 11:09 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | RC Master | 8/8/11 1:40 p.m. |
| Re: Thanks. | Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) | 8/8/11 2:44 p.m. |
| Re: Thanks. | General Vagueness | 8/8/11 5:25 p.m. |
| x3 thanks for awesome | SonofMacPhisto | 8/8/11 6:06 p.m. |
| Combat sandbox and mission design | GhaleonEB | 8/8/11 1:10 a.m. |
| Re: Combat sandbox and mission design | dmiller | 8/8/11 1:26 a.m. |
| Re: Combat sandbox and mission design | dmiller | 8/8/11 1:29 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Lord Friendship | 8/8/11 12:33 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/8/11 8:55 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Gravemind | 8/8/11 3:29 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | scarab | 8/8/11 3:49 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Lurono | 8/8/11 6:52 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | SonofMacPhisto | 8/8/11 7:00 p.m. |
| Yes to both *NM* | Lurono | 8/8/11 7:15 p.m. |
| Ok, I'm not nuts. Well, I am... but... n/m :) *NM* | SonofMacPhisto | 8/8/11 7:22 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/8/11 9:42 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | RC Master | 8/9/11 9:34 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/9/11 9:47 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | JonnyOThan | 8/10/11 3:27 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | RC Master | 8/10/11 7:21 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/10/11 10:37 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Hyokin | 8/10/11 11:36 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/10/11 11:59 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | RC Master | 8/11/11 8:30 p.m. |
| 343i, hire him too! *NM* | Hyokin | 8/11/11 10:02 p.m. |
| Re: 343i, hire him too! | RC Master | 8/13/11 10:34 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/11/11 11:02 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | RC Master | 8/12/11 7:28 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/12/11 6:26 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/13/11 2:39 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | FyreWulff | 8/9/11 5:23 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Lurono | 8/9/11 8:07 p.m. |
| The worst kind *NM* | scarab | 8/10/11 1:03 a.m. |
| And a serious answer... | Lurono | 8/9/11 8:13 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/9/11 9:39 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/9/11 10:37 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/9/11 10:41 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/9/11 10:45 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/9/11 10:47 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | ZackDark | 8/9/11 10:52 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/9/11 11:13 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | scarab | 8/10/11 1:28 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/10/11 9:18 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | scarab | 8/11/11 4:49 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/11/11 9:49 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | Dagoonite | 8/11/11 10:31 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | RC Master | 8/11/11 11:41 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/12/11 1:20 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | RC Master | 8/12/11 7:05 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script (ooh! Question!) | RC Master | 8/13/11 5:52 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script (ooh! Question!) | dmiller | 8/13/11 2:28 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script (ooh! Question!) | dmiller | 8/13/11 2:34 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script (ooh! Question!) | RC Master | 8/13/11 8:37 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | General Vagueness | 8/9/11 11:38 p.m. |
| Re: AI Script | mrbig | 8/10/11 12:50 a.m. |
| Re: AI Script | dmiller | 8/10/11 9:11 a.m. |
| Aww crap | RC Master | 8/8/11 7:22 a.m. |
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