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Re: Why retcons don't bother me anymore
Posted By: Quirel <I_am_quirel@hotmail.com>Date: 5/12/11 1:20 p.m.


: Really? Unintentionally offensive? How the hell was it offensive? It was
: about as offensive as 90% of the webcomics that portray gamers MADE BY
: gamers. ie: Not at all.

: So the Halo player was large, apparently stupid, and obsessive. I'm pretty
: sure I run into people like that on Live all the time. If you find that
: offensive, you need thicker skin. For the record, I didn't especially
: agree with that character either, but unlike the rest of the community, I
: saw it as something that should just be changed. Not Nerd Raged over.

I could go into this, but Loruno beat me to it, and he wrote it better than I could have.
For me, 343i had been batting a lot of no-hitters.

-The TFOR re-release had been thoroughly botched. I can understand a miscommunication with Tor resulting in the wrong version being sent to the publisher, maybe, but it was still a big mistake.

-The Halo Encyclopedia. While other universes have been publishing their encyclopedias for some time, the bar is a lot higher now. We've got fan-edited wikis that are (somewhat) accurate. A published encyclopedia would have to go beyond what the fans could do; maybe new artwork, longer definitions, backstory that the games and novels couldn't go into.
Instead, there was little, if any, new content. In-game screenshots were used for the Halo Wars units (when Halo Wars itself had the graphical resolution of an RTS from 2005). The ranges on the weapons were clearly erroneous. Armor permutations were mislabeled.

-Halo: Legends. A lot of you guys like them. A lot don't. Can anyone argue that quality would not have been improved by focusing on fewer, longer episodes? In parts and places, it was clear that 343i bit off a little more than it could chew.

After Halo: Reach, 343i had to come out with something amazing. Sure, Reach had its flaws, but Bungie had passed the flaming baton to 343i with a flourish and a grin. 343i grinned back and told a poop joke.

: You guys want 343i to prove themselves so damn much, but when they take steps
: to branch out and attempt to make Halo more of a franchise, to attempt to
: make it appeal to a wider audience, all you do is bash and berate them.

*rolls eyes*

You know where 343i had its successes? Halo: Evolutions. The additional stories in the back of the reprints. Halo: Cryptum had its problems, but it was still a step forward in the right direction.

I'm sorry, but 343i's strengths seem to show when it's not trying to do something new. When it's not trying to enlarge the fanbase.
I'm not, never have been, and probably never will be, against expansion into new media for the Haloverse. I'd like more care to be taken, for sure. I'd like to know that they know that they already /have/ a franchise, and they don't need to stumble all over themselves to rush out the latest stuff.

: You don't want 343i to prove themselves. You want them to remake Halo 1-3
: without changing a damn thing because then it would be retconing. Or you
: want them remade to reflect current canon.

Oh, gosh, that would be the argument that gets me to shut the computer down and reflect on my actions. If I /WANTED/ a remake of the trilogy.

: You want a company that eagerly
: and perfectly pretends to be Bungie. They aren't Bungie. They won't be
: Bungie. I realize it's been 10 years of the same old routine, but a lot of
: the community needs to loosen up and accept that fact.

I don't /want/ another Bungie. I don't idolize them. I don't idolize Nylund.
Bungie had it's problems, like being perfectly OK with retcons. Nylund has his problems with writing, like how he introduces 'new' enemies as threats, when it doesn't quite fit in.

I /want/ someone who will turn Halo back into a cohesive universe again. I want people who will take the apparent contradictions and turn them into consistencies, without retcons. I want someone who will bring the mysteries back.

Nylund did a darn good job with Halsey's Journal. Can we follow his example?

But for now, I'll settle for wanting someone who will give us MJOLNIR Mk IV, not MJOLNIR Mk. "Take our word for it, it looks like Mk. VI but it's totally Mk IV."

: The Haloverse will
: not go up in flames just because it's in someone else's hands and they're
: attempting new things.

No. It'll go down in flames if they follow Lucas's example.
A lot of the Star Wars EU is good. A lot of it is utter tripe. Lucas, because he held the merchandise rights, basically farmed it out to anyone with a pulse, before crapping on the OT with the PT.

Star Wars can be enjoyed piecemeal, by interpreting everything with broad strokes and realizing that Luke Skywalker is a walking nexus of pure Force, so he's going to be at every major conflict that comes the Galaxy's way for fifty years.
Or you can enjoy Star Wars as a whole, by watching just the OT and being selective about the books/comics/games you read/play.

What originally attracted me to Halo was that you didn't have to do that. I mean, I wasn't a fan of some of the comics, but I could still accept that they were all canon, all fit together.
I'd like that back. 343i, because it's given control over all the Halo Franchise, means that it can keep the universe cohesive. Future studios and comic writers won't be working separately from the guys with the Halo Bible, like Ensemble Studios did.

So, could we please go ahead without these retcons?


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