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Posted By: Dervish <acroiguana@verizon.net> | Date: 10/23/10 6:01 p.m. |
In Response To: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net (Hawaiian Pig) So I’m a long time lurker and first time poster, and I felt compelled to make a few points on this issue. This is going to be a bit long, but I’m going to explain why I don’t like Nylund’s The Fall of Reach and why I think it has outlived its usefulness as canon, and then I’ll get into how the retcons in Halo: Reach are beneficial, as they make the series as a whole make a lot more sense. To be frank, I don’t like The Fall of Reach. At all. Some of the reasons below fall into the realm of personal preference, but I include them because even though TFOR is often held up on a pedestal of brilliance, it is guilty of many of the flaws being pointed to in Halo: Reach’s story, often to a much greater degree. I appreciate that Nylund’s first Halo novel was the first deep exploration of the Halo universe, and that the games and other tie-ins that followed owe much to it, and I also appreciate that the book was written in six weeks and therefore isn’t going to be perfect. However, the numerous shortcomings of TFOR, outlined below, make it clear to me that ten years later, relying on the book as the basis for canon does more harm than good. 1) TFOR has no story arc to speak of, rather, it is a series of set pieces loosely strung together. This succeeds at embellishing some of the events eluded to in Halo: CE, but this basic lack of structure makes its story inferior to any of the Halo games, perhaps excluding ODST.
To sum up, TFOR was sufficient when we had one Halo game, but the universe has exploded since that point. Even Nylund’s other novels leave elements of TFOR in a canonical grey area, and I think it’s about time the dead weight on the canon that TFOR represents be let go. And what better way to do that than a new game defining exactly what went on at Reach? Halo: Reach does a number of things right that TFOR didn’t bother with. We get a coherent look at the people and cultures of Reach, rather than some cloak-and-dagger military entity that we are told is benevolent despite all evidence to the contrary. Our principle cast of spartans (while not as fleshed out as they could be given the rather short length of the game) are diverse in their perspectives and believable as capable soldiers that have been working together for some time. We get a story about people who care about what happens to one another, and who care about what they are fighting for, something the broad narrative strokes of TFOR never got across. We get to see retaliation against the Covenant on the ground, in the air and in space. We meet enlisted soldiers and devoted militia. Halo: Reach suffers somewhat from keeping the story too strictly focused on Noble team, which makes the broader strategic picture difficult to follow, but the game succeeds at giving the impression of a world at war, with everybody trying everything to succeed, something that the brief space battle in TFOR was lacking. I’ve established that based on personal taste, I would rather the story told in Halo: Reach be canonical than that of TFOR. But the retcons in Halo: Reach do improve the overall canon. Let’s go through them: 1) Brutes and Drones. Obviously these hadn’t been created yet when TFOR was written, but they have contributed so much to the story as a whole since their introduction (well, the Brutes anyway) that insisting that their first appearance was a month or two before the end of the war is foolish. I welcome the adjustment of canon in order to accommodate the Brutes with open arms.
Halo: Reach’s story isn’t perfect, but I don’t think the thread’s authors are giving it due credit for streamlining and improving a canon that was previously disjointed and outdated.
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HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 12:34 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 12:38 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 12:55 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | newguy2445 | 10/23/10 1:38 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 7:08 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | BlueNinja | 10/23/10 7:52 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | BlueNinja | 10/23/10 4:14 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 4:18 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | BlueNinja | 10/23/10 4:29 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 4:31 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | BlueNinja | 10/23/10 4:34 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 5:30 a.m. |
Cody's critique (long) | Kermit | 10/23/10 3:37 p.m. |
Bravo | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:51 p.m. |
The Haloverse Will Survive. | Leviathan | 10/23/10 6:03 p.m. |
Re: Cody's critique (long) | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 4:27 p.m. |
Re: Cody's critique (long) | DHalo | 10/23/10 4:40 p.m. |
Re: Cody's critique (long) | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 4:57 p.m. |
Re: Cody's critique (long) | DHalo | 10/23/10 5:02 p.m. |
Oh and... | DHalo | 10/23/10 5:04 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 5:10 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | DHalo | 10/23/10 5:21 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Leviathan | 10/23/10 6:17 p.m. |
Thank ya :) *NM* | DHalo | 10/23/10 7:24 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 2:19 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | urK | 10/24/10 4:36 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 5:28 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | DHalo | 10/24/10 6:02 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 6:20 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | DHalo | 10/24/10 6:27 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Hawaiian Pig | 10/24/10 7:49 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | urK | 10/24/10 6:27 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 6:41 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | urK | 10/24/10 6:06 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | urK | 10/24/10 6:14 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Hawaiian Pig | 10/24/10 6:34 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 6:40 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Hawaiian Pig | 10/24/10 6:49 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 6:53 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | mnemesis | 10/24/10 7:22 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Hawaiian Pig | 10/24/10 7:39 p.m. |
To Kermit - Gladly *NM* | Lobster | 10/24/10 1:17 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Caleb 117 | 10/23/10 1:24 a.m. |
Ok, but | Pebbles | 10/23/10 1:32 a.m. |
Re: Ok, but | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:08 a.m. |
You guys are sick | kanbo | 10/23/10 1:37 a.m. |
Seriously? | hyokin | 10/23/10 1:38 a.m. |
Your posts get more and more stupid every day. | Spartan Jag | 10/23/10 2:51 a.m. |
I lol'd *NM* | kapowaz | 10/23/10 3:24 a.m. |
Have you ever tried not being an asshole? | hyokin | 10/23/10 8:59 a.m. |
You didn't answer his question. *NM* | gunluva | 10/23/10 1:05 p.m. |
Obviously I must be stupid to reply to his post. | hyokin | 10/23/10 2:13 p.m. |
Re: Obviously I must be stupid to reply to his pos | gunluva | 10/23/10 2:20 p.m. |
Re: Obviously I must be stupid to reply to his pos | Leviathan | 10/23/10 2:41 p.m. |
Re: Obviously I must be stupid to reply to his pos | Spartan Jag | 10/23/10 3:08 p.m. |
That's enough. All of this has gone WAY too far. *NM* | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 3:17 p.m. |
Agreed. I'm DONE. *NM* | hyokin | 10/23/10 3:20 p.m. |
Re: Agreed. I'm DONE. | Spartan Jag | 10/23/10 3:54 p.m. |
? | padraig08 | 10/23/10 3:56 p.m. |
Re: ? | gunluva | 10/23/10 4:02 p.m. |
Re: ? | padraig08 | 10/23/10 4:18 p.m. |
Re: ? | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 4:31 p.m. |
Re: ? | padraig08 | 10/23/10 4:39 p.m. |
Re: ? | DHalo | 10/23/10 4:41 p.m. |
Re: ? | Vincent | 10/23/10 4:45 p.m. |
Re: ? | padraig08 | 10/23/10 5:23 p.m. |
Re: Seriously? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 6:52 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | hyokin | 10/23/10 9:02 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:10 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | hyokin | 10/23/10 9:50 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:59 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | Gravemind | 10/23/10 11:16 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | hyokin | 10/23/10 2:07 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Caleb 117 | 10/23/10 1:44 a.m. |
Love it. | Gravemind | 10/23/10 1:48 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | WhoLikesChicken | 10/23/10 2:11 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:02 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | WhoLikesChicken | 10/23/10 11:07 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 11:51 a.m. |
TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 2:21 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Schooly D | 10/23/10 2:42 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 4:37 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | DHalo | 10/23/10 9:47 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 2:44 p.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:13 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Vincent | 10/23/10 6:25 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:27 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 6:45 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:51 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 7:00 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 7:13 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 7:26 a.m. |
What a waste of time and bandwidth | Hikaru-119 | 10/23/10 2:34 a.m. |
That's what I like to see... | kapowaz | 10/23/10 3:32 a.m. |
Re: What a waste of time and bandwidth | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:16 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Compton | 10/23/10 2:41 a.m. |
No. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 3:35 a.m. |
To elaborate. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 3:41 a.m. |
Alternately: | kapowaz | 10/23/10 3:49 a.m. |
It is getting old. However.......... | PsychoRaven | 10/23/10 3:44 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Riceatron | 10/23/10 3:49 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | kapowaz | 10/23/10 3:50 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Riceatron | 10/23/10 3:53 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | kapowaz | 10/23/10 3:58 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Riceatron | 10/23/10 4:07 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | kapowaz | 10/23/10 4:14 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Riceatron | 10/23/10 4:15 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:20 a.m. |
Ok Riceatron. Let me lay this out for you. | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 4:28 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Eiii | 10/23/10 3:55 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Riceatron | 10/23/10 3:56 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Eiii | 10/23/10 4:31 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:18 a.m. |
You're like the pro-bungie version of hp/cody *NM* | Eiii | 10/23/10 3:51 a.m. |
Re: No. | mattroe | 10/23/10 5:05 a.m. |
Now *this* is ridiculous | kapowaz | 10/23/10 5:17 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | mattroe | 10/23/10 5:21 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Bry | 10/23/10 5:25 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:25 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Bry | 10/23/10 6:39 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:46 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Bry | 10/23/10 6:57 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 12:25 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | kapowaz | 10/23/10 9:14 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:29 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 2:50 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | DHalo | 10/23/10 2:58 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 2:59 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Vincent | 10/23/10 3:01 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:03 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 3:38 p.m. |
You've missed the point... | mattroe | 10/23/10 7:29 p.m. |
Really? Still? | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 9:18 a.m. |
think he left | General Battuta | 10/25/10 9:20 a.m. |
Sorry, only 1/3 through this thread :P | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 9:21 a.m. |
Dying Horse here, mind the flies *nm* *NM* | justagrunt1 | 10/25/10 10:52 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | imode | 10/23/10 3:41 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | aloyisus | 10/23/10 6:09 a.m. |
Are you fucking kidding us? | NobleSixActual | 10/23/10 3:57 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | NobleSixActual | 10/23/10 3:59 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Eiii | 10/23/10 4:04 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | NobleSixActual | 10/23/10 4:07 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Eiii | 10/23/10 4:21 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 4:22 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | kapowaz | 10/23/10 4:00 a.m. |
That I pick dead characters for GTs? *NM* | NobleSixActual | 10/23/10 4:01 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:31 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:26 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Azo 'Galvat | 10/23/10 7:42 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Beckx | 10/23/10 10:24 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | The Loot | 10/23/10 10:47 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 11:36 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 2:51 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Vincent | 10/23/10 5:50 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:37 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 6:50 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Vincent | 10/23/10 7:02 a.m. |
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Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 8:26 a.m. |
Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you guys | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 2:57 p.m. |
Re: Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:02 p.m. |
Re: Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 3:07 p.m. |
Re: Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you | mnemesis | 10/23/10 3:09 p.m. |
Re: Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you | Eiii | 10/23/10 3:27 p.m. |
Re: Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:36 p.m. |
Wow. | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 3:28 p.m. |
woah | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 3:42 p.m. |
Re: woah | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:46 p.m. |
Re: Wow. | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:44 p.m. |
Re: Wow. | mnemesis | 10/23/10 3:58 p.m. |
Re: Wow. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 4:44 p.m. |
Re: Wow. | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 5:52 p.m. |
Re: Wow. | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 4:00 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Schooly D | 10/23/10 9:29 a.m. |
No, I guess it doesn't... | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:00 a.m. |
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Just a thought... | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 9:49 a.m. |
Re: Just a thought... | Bry | 10/25/10 11:06 a.m. |
Re: Just a thought... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/25/10 11:06 a.m. |
Re: Just a thought... | Beckx | 10/25/10 11:12 a.m. |
Re: Just a thought... | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 1:09 p.m. |
Re: Just a thought... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/25/10 1:29 p.m. |
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^_This *NM* | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 8:20 a.m. |
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Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper? | urK | 10/23/10 12:20 p.m. |
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Re: Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:00 p.m. |
Re: Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:05 p.m. |
Re: Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper? | Bry | 10/23/10 1:17 p.m. |
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Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 10/23/10 1:45 p.m. |
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Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:45 a.m. |
Has Bungie ever said the books are canon? *NM* | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 7:50 a.m. |
They have... | Bry | 10/23/10 8:01 a.m. |
Re: They have... | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 8:04 a.m. |
Re: They have... | Bry | 10/23/10 8:10 a.m. |
Re: They have... | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 8:18 a.m. |
Re: They have... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 8:32 a.m. |
Hopefully Frankie can fix all | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 8:36 a.m. |
Re: Hopefully Frankie can fix all | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 8:55 a.m. |
I think it might be down to a change of hats | onebitrocket | 10/23/10 4:04 p.m. |
This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 9:03 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:12 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 9:15 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:42 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 9:56 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Vincent | 10/23/10 10:02 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 10:06 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Vincent | 10/23/10 10:14 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 11:17 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:07 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 10:10 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 10:13 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 10:15 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 10:18 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:21 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 10:11 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:18 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 10:32 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Vincent | 10/23/10 10:37 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Bry | 10/23/10 10:42 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Vincent | 10/23/10 10:45 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 11:41 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 12:46 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:12 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Vincent | 10/23/10 1:14 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:30 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 1:33 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:41 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 1:44 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:51 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 1:56 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 2:01 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Quirel | 10/23/10 6:48 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 6:58 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Quirel | 10/23/10 8:24 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:39 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 11:13 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Gravemind | 10/23/10 11:45 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 11:47 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Leviathan | 10/23/10 12:08 p.m. |
Re: They have... | Bry | 10/23/10 10:25 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | ArteenEsben | 10/23/10 9:35 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:57 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Bry | 10/23/10 3:59 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Quirel | 10/23/10 7:04 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Bry | 10/23/10 7:10 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Quirel | 10/23/10 8:18 p.m. |
History is immutable! LOL! *NM* | Kermit | 10/23/10 3:24 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 5:05 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Bry | 10/23/10 5:27 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 5:56 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Bry | 10/23/10 6:16 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 6:54 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Bry | 10/23/10 7:04 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Quirel | 10/23/10 7:11 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Bry | 10/23/10 7:18 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:39 p.m. |
Wait... Bootcamp #2 came out? | Leviathan | 10/23/10 9:10 p.m. |
Re: Wait... Bootcamp #2 came out? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 10:33 p.m. |
Re: Wait... Bootcamp #2 came out? | Leviathan | 10/24/10 1:51 a.m. |
This ^ | Kermit | 10/24/10 12:12 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Beckx | 10/23/10 5:30 p.m. |
I like midichlorians *NM* | Mirel | 10/23/10 7:23 a.m. |
This is entertaining. | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 8:05 a.m. |
Not sure why anyone cares at this point... | FoolsRun | 10/23/10 8:35 a.m. |
Re: Not sure why anyone cares at this point... | Lobster | 10/23/10 8:45 a.m. |
Re: Not sure why anyone cares at this point... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:07 a.m. |
Re: Allow me to clarify... | FoolsRun | 10/23/10 6:48 p.m. |
Re: Allow me to clarify... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:04 p.m. |
I understand.. | FoolsRun | 10/23/10 7:57 p.m. |
By golly you do | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 9:22 p.m. |
Re: Not sure why anyone cares at this point... | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 10:12 a.m. |
Re: Not sure why anyone cares at this point... | Azo 'Galvat | 10/23/10 10:44 a.m. |
Halo is not the Dollars Trilogy. *NM* | uberfoop | 10/23/10 6:23 p.m. |
HP is ready for his thorazine, nurse. *NM* | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 10/23/10 8:45 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | DrDoctor | 10/23/10 9:25 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Vincent | 10/23/10 10:09 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 10:13 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 3:42 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Beckx | 10/23/10 10:34 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Jak Redlevske | 10/23/10 10:45 a.m. |
Skipping this. Life's too short. *NM* | Kermit | 10/23/10 11:06 a.m. |
Re: Skipping this. Life's too short. | General Vagueness | 10/23/10 11:24 a.m. |
I appreciate your opinion. | kanbo | 10/23/10 11:22 a.m. |
Re: I appreciate your opinion. | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 11:24 a.m. |
"everyone else"? *NM* | Vincent | 10/23/10 11:28 a.m. |
Here's my opinion.... | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 11:31 a.m. |
Thank... you.... GOD! | chris101b | 10/23/10 11:49 a.m. |
Re: Thank... you.... GOD! | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 12:32 p.m. |
D: Whatever happened to zen and peace? *NM* | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 12:37 p.m. |
Re: D: Whatever happened to zen and peace? | Quirel | 10/23/10 9:21 p.m. |
...the milkman? the paperboy? evening tv? *NM* | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 10:43 a.m. |
New record! | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 1:20 p.m. |
Um... no | chris101b | 10/23/10 1:30 p.m. |
Hey Cody | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 2:28 p.m. |
Re: Hey Cody | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 2:37 p.m. |
Re: Hey Cody | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 2:55 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Caleb 117 | 10/23/10 3:13 p.m. |
Well now that the dust has settled. | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 3:56 p.m. |
Re: Well now that the dust has settled. | DHalo | 10/23/10 4:13 p.m. |
Re: Well now that the dust has settled. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 5:03 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Quirel | 10/23/10 4:55 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | DHalo | 10/23/10 4:58 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 5:33 p.m. |
My take on Reach | Meyeselph | 10/23/10 4:56 p.m. |
first time poster's response | Dervish | 10/23/10 6:01 p.m. |
great example | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 6:09 p.m. |
Re: great example | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 6:24 p.m. |
Re: great example | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 6:48 p.m. |
Re: great example | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 7:11 p.m. |
I have evidence | Avateur | 10/23/10 7:21 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 7:28 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Avateur | 10/23/10 7:40 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 7:47 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Avateur | 10/23/10 8:03 p.m. |
Addendum | Avateur | 10/23/10 8:22 p.m. |
This whole subthread is a joke | Eiii | 10/23/10 8:42 p.m. |
Dude | DHalo | 10/23/10 8:46 p.m. |
Re: Dude | Quirel | 10/23/10 9:29 p.m. |
Re: This whole subthread is a joke | Avateur | 10/23/10 9:00 p.m. |
Re: This whole subthread is a joke | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 9:18 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 8:26 p.m. |
i heart mig | DHalo | 10/23/10 8:28 p.m. |
oops | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 8:29 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 9:06 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 10:27 p.m. |
"It takes ten seconds to make a first impression | 7he grunt w/a plasma pistol | 10/23/10 7:47 p.m. |
Re: "It takes ten seconds to make a first impressi | Sl'askia | 10/23/10 9:56 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | uberfoop | 10/23/10 7:52 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 8:41 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Eiii | 10/23/10 9:04 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | DHalo | 10/23/10 9:08 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Quirel | 10/23/10 9:34 p.m. |
Snotcannon.com *NM* | Urk | 10/23/10 9:41 p.m. |
Howdy, Urk. | gunluva | 10/23/10 9:56 p.m. |
Re: Howdy, Urk. | Sl'askia | 10/23/10 9:59 p.m. |
Clever devil. *NM* | Jak Redlevske | 10/23/10 11:21 p.m. |
Re: great example | Bry | 10/23/10 6:34 p.m. |
Re: first time poster's response | Leviathan | 10/23/10 6:36 p.m. |
Re: first time poster's response | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 6:43 p.m. |
The best post here, and with this I'm through. *NM* | Riceatron | 10/24/10 2:45 p.m. |
Haha, oh wow | radda | 10/23/10 8:52 p.m. |
Re: Haha, oh wow | Vincent | 10/23/10 9:00 p.m. |
Re: Haha, oh wow | radda | 10/23/10 10:02 p.m. |
Re: Haha, oh wow | DerekT07 | 10/23/10 11:22 p.m. |
Re: Haha, oh wow | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 11:32 p.m. |
Re: Haha, oh wow | DerekT07 | 10/24/10 12:05 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Asian Inferno | 10/24/10 1:26 a.m. |
You honestly have more faith in 343i over Bungie? *NM* | Jayshum | 10/24/10 9:08 a.m. |
This is why... | 7he_7ruth | 10/24/10 10:52 a.m. |
Zathras can never have anything nice. *NM* | Beckx | 10/24/10 12:56 p.m. |
I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Eiii | 10/24/10 5:05 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | 7he_7ruth | 10/24/10 5:59 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Avateur | 10/24/10 10:11 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Eiii | 10/24/10 11:29 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | DHalo | 10/24/10 11:37 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Hawaiian Pig | 10/25/10 12:17 a.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Avateur | 10/24/10 11:45 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Hawaiian Pig | 10/25/10 12:26 a.m. |
Holycrap what did I miss this weekend? o_O *NM* | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 8:58 a.m. |
A -1d6 SAN hazard. Roll, please. *NM* | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 10/25/10 9:19 a.m. |
*IMG* | bluerunner | 10/25/10 10:46 a.m. |
Windmill FTW! *NM* | Beckx | 10/25/10 10:50 a.m. |
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