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Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?
Posted By: RocksliderDate: 10/13/09 2:23 p.m.

In Response To: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas? (RyanTheHeretic)


First off, I wouldn't consider them functionally the same. The main reason is that a spike grenade is much safer when you're tagging an enemy close up. But yes I do occasionally tag a wall or something, to try to get enemies with the spike spray (e.g. when they're hiding). But functionality isn't the only relevant thing anyway. When I hear people saying the battle rifle is basically the same as the old H1 pistol for example, I have to disagree. They may have similar capabilities but the BR has that three-round burst, making it feel quite different to me; and when I use the pistol, I also just feel different with it due to how it's carried. I mean, it's a pistol not a rifle. Ok that's all just asthetics you could say, but that's an important part of the experience after all. The spike grenade has different aesthetics to the plasma grenade, and it's also nicely in line with the Brute style of weaponry - which I think I once heard described as 'industrial'. The sticking sound it makes is enjoyable too. So even if it's functionally similar, it still has its own character. On that basis I wouldn't think it fair to drop it.

On the other hand I'm also in the same camp as Scarab. Cycling through four different types of grenade in the heat of battle is not what I want, and because of this I sometimes end up throwing the wrong type by mistake, or I give up even trying to select, and just throw whatever - which ain't always beneficial! Also, when I have to think about cycling, it takes me out of the battle somewhat; I'm losing immersion. So although the spike grenade and fire grenade are each enjoyable to use, on balance I'd prefer if we still had only two types. For me, fluency of combat should come first. Course, some folk may be lot better at grenade-cycling, so they might not mind it so much.

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Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?RyanTheHeretic 10/13/09 10:59 a.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/13/09 11:14 a.m.
           Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?Bernard Strauss 10/13/09 11:29 a.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?Bernard Strauss 10/13/09 11:22 a.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?Eiii 10/13/09 11:25 a.m.
           Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?RyanTheHeretic 10/13/09 11:32 a.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?Simpsons Rule 10/13/09 11:54 a.m.
           Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?RyanTheHeretic 10/13/09 12:10 p.m.
           Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?Cody Miller 10/13/09 4:54 p.m.
                 Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?Metalingus627 10/13/09 6:26 p.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?General Vagueness 10/13/09 11:55 a.m.
           Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?RyanTheHeretic 10/13/09 12:13 p.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?Bry 10/13/09 12:05 p.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?bluerunner 10/13/09 12:10 p.m.
           Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?sharpsniper99 10/13/09 12:16 p.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?scarab 10/13/09 12:46 p.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?Metalingus627 10/13/09 1:02 p.m.
     They're differentArteenEsben 10/13/09 1:49 p.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?Rockslider 10/13/09 2:23 p.m.
           i think we're forgetting..Hawaiian Pig 10/13/09 3:25 p.m.
                 ^ 100% agree, good post. *NM*RyanTheHeretic 10/13/09 4:03 p.m.
                 Brutes ARE more fun to fight *NM*scarab 10/13/09 5:00 p.m.
                 Don't 100% agree...Metalingus627 10/13/09 6:33 p.m.
                       Re: Don't 100% agree...General Vagueness 10/13/09 6:50 p.m.
                       I'm down with that *NM*Hawaiian Pig 10/13/09 10:31 p.m.
                       Re: Don't 100% agree...serpx 10/14/09 12:33 a.m.
                       Re: Don't 100% agree...scarab 10/14/09 4:39 a.m.
                             Re: Don't 100% agree...Louis Wu 10/14/09 7:03 a.m.
                                   Re: Don't 100% agree...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/14/09 9:39 a.m.
                                         Re: Don't 100% agree...General Vagueness 10/14/09 11:12 a.m.
                                               Re: Don't 100% agree...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/14/09 11:16 a.m.
                                         Re: Don't 100% agree...SonofMacPhisto 10/14/09 11:39 a.m.
                                   ODST: the gift that keeps on giving.scarab 10/14/09 10:07 a.m.
                                         Re: ODST: the gift that keeps on giving.SonofMacPhisto 10/14/09 11:40 a.m.
                       Re: Don't 100% agree...RyanTheHeretic 10/14/09 4:49 a.m.
                             Re: Don't 100% agree...Leisandir 10/14/09 8:51 a.m.
                                   Re: Don't 100% agree...Hikaru-119 10/14/09 1:32 p.m.
                                         Re: Don't 100% agree...Leisandir 10/15/09 9:03 a.m.
                 Re: i think we're forgetting..General Vagueness 10/13/09 6:41 p.m.
                 Re: i think we're forgetting..General Vagueness 10/13/09 6:46 p.m.
                 Signed/agreed/toasted/etc *NM*reprobate 10/13/09 8:07 p.m.
     Tactically speaking, they're VERY different.Jammerfer [MunKy] 10/13/09 3:32 p.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?elessar787 10/13/09 9:24 p.m.
           Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?Metalingus627 10/13/09 10:18 p.m.
                 Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?T07WRX5 10/14/09 9:35 a.m.
           remember when the flare worked?Hawaiian Pig 10/13/09 10:28 p.m.
     Re: Aren't Spike Grenades basically Plasmas?psychophan7 10/13/09 9:26 p.m.



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