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Re: Story Shenanigans
Posted By: bedlamDate: 1/23/08 4:30 p.m.

In Response To: Story Shenanigans (Cody Miller)


: Okay. There are still a few things that are bugging me about the Halo story
: ark . I will confess that I have not yet finished contact harvest, or
: fully analyzed all the terminals, so if it's answered there, then just let
: me know without spoiling it.

: Regret's premature arival: First of all, why was this "premature"?
: Why was it that Truth had to wait before going to Earth? Why did the
: Covenant not expect humans on Earth? It seemed strange then, but even
: stranger now.

: The Covenant Construct: What was the covenant construct Cortana mentions in
: High Charity? It was "fighting back" and "unusually
: formidable". She specifically says it's a covenant construct. So…
: what was it?

: Last time you asked me: What am I supposed to make of 343GS's speech on Two
: betrayals, when he tells the MC (or Cortana as some people think):
: "Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having
: considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed."

1) I'm not really sure, honestly. During Iris we learned that the forerunner came into contact with earth right near the end, and the forerunner tried to preserve our awesomeness, and pass down the tourch to us. I'm not a Halo book expert, but I don't really see how the Covenant, or MB, were supposed to know about these unique denizens that were chillin' on Earth.

2) I was never sure, but others have mentioned MB. So I can roll with that.

3) Perhaps it was nothing more than a conversation between a bot and a living being? For example, say I have a suppository that floats, and can also hold a conversation with me. We start talking about the rings, their purpose, proper protocol in a severe Flood outbreak, and the heavy burden such a solution would carry for whoever is involved with the activation process, in the unfortunate event that a Flood outbreak ever occured. The human turns to the light bulb and asks "Suppose their comes a time when we have to activate these rings? When, and if, that day arrives, what would your decision be in such a situation?" And 343's answer is simple - activate the rings. And it appears it had never changed.

As for the why would you hesitate to do what you've already done. I'm guessing 343 is simply referring to the last activation. And doesn't understand why these new reclaimers are so hesitant to activate the rings under such circumstances, when the Flood could potentially destroy all.

It could also just be story evolved. Or story rushed and changed a bit.


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Replies:

Story ShenanigansCody Miller 1/22/08 2:24 p.m.
     Re: Story Shenanigansscarab 1/22/08 2:48 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansRaulboy 1/22/08 5:27 p.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansCaptain Spark 1/22/08 2:50 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansMcGrude 1/22/08 3:04 p.m.
                 Re: Story ShenanigansCaptain Spark 1/22/08 3:11 p.m.
                       Re: Story ShenanigansUrban Reflex 1/22/08 3:15 p.m.
                             Re: Story ShenanigansCaptain Spark 1/22/08 3:25 p.m.
                                   Re: Story Shenanigansthe Light Show 1/23/08 2:37 a.m.
                                         Re: Story Shenanigansscarab 1/23/08 8:15 a.m.
                                               Re: Story ShenanigansDon 4/4/08 3:06 p.m.
                                                     Either Didact, or just a random Forerunner. *NM*BlueNinja 4/4/08 4:02 p.m.
                       Re: Story ShenanigansCthulhu117 1/22/08 7:10 p.m.
                 Re: Story ShenanigansDiscipleN2k 1/22/08 3:27 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansCody Miller 1/22/08 3:30 p.m.
                 Re: Story ShenanigansCaptain Spark 1/22/08 3:37 p.m.
                       To borrow from Star Trek First Contact...McGrude 1/22/08 3:39 p.m.
                             I think we're overanalyzingelpolloguapo 1/22/08 4:52 p.m.
                             ^ i remember that! lol *NM*the Light Show 1/23/08 2:41 a.m.
                       No dice.Narcogen 1/23/08 10:01 a.m.
                 Other AnswersDHalo 1/22/08 3:38 p.m.
                       ...and a few more...Leviathan 1/22/08 4:25 p.m.
                             WaitKockynvainn 1/23/08 2:28 p.m.
                                   Re: Waitelpolloguapo 1/23/08 2:29 p.m.
                                         Re: WaitKockynvainn 1/23/08 2:54 p.m.
                                               Re: WaitLouis Wu 1/23/08 3:15 p.m.
                                                     OOPS!Kockynvainn 1/23/08 3:45 p.m.
                                                           And illiterate it seems... *NM*Kockynvainn 1/23/08 3:45 p.m.
                                               SEE? *NM*elpolloguapo 1/23/08 4:29 p.m.
                             Re: ...and a few more...Jillybean 1/25/08 7:58 a.m.
                                   Re: ...and a few more...UrsusArctos 1/25/08 8:47 a.m.
                                         Re: ...and a few more...Narcogen 1/26/08 12:34 a.m.
                                               Re: ...and a few more...UrsusArctos 1/26/08 7:23 p.m.
                       Thanks, intersting *NM*Cody Miller 1/22/08 9:33 p.m.
                       Re: Other AnswersRosco-128 1/22/08 9:44 p.m.
                             Re: Other Answersscarab 1/23/08 12:18 p.m.
                                   ooooh, i seeRosco-128 1/23/08 4:02 p.m.
                                   I can no longer like this theoryJillybean 1/25/08 8:37 a.m.
                                         You STILL hate Cortana?UrsusArctos 1/25/08 8:51 a.m.
                                         Re: I can no longer like this theoryPeptuck 1/25/08 10:50 a.m.
                                         Re: I can no longer like this theoryCody Miller 1/25/08 12:37 p.m.
                                               Re: I can no longer like this theoryCaptain Spark 1/25/08 2:04 p.m.
                                                     Re: I can no longer like this theoryLeviathan 1/25/08 2:49 p.m.
                                                           Re: I can no longer like this theoryelpolloguapo 1/25/08 3:09 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I can no longer like this theoryLeviathan 1/25/08 6:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: I can no longer like this theoryelpolloguapo 1/25/08 2:51 p.m.
                                                           Re: I can no longer like this theoryscarab 1/25/08 5:57 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I can no longer like this theoryelpolloguapo 1/25/08 8:53 p.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansClefton Twain 1/22/08 3:47 p.m.
           Answers.InnerRayg 1/22/08 4:38 p.m.
                 Canon: Best Defensive Option Is A Last Offensive..Narcogen 1/23/08 9:57 a.m.
                       Re: Canon: Best Defensive Option Is A Last OffensiSimpsons Rule 1/23/08 10:03 a.m.
                             Re: Canon: Best Defensive Option Is A Last OffensiNarcogen 1/23/08 10:19 a.m.
                 Re: Answers.scarab 1/23/08 12:21 p.m.
           Shamez-vous, CTelpolloguapo 1/22/08 4:56 p.m.
                 Re: Shamez-vous, CTClefton Twain 1/23/08 8:23 a.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansPeptuck 1/22/08 5:51 p.m.
                 Re: Story Shenanigansreprobate 1/22/08 7:37 p.m.
                 WTF do I know?Clefton Twain 1/23/08 7:58 a.m.
     Re: Story Shenaniganselpolloguapo 1/22/08 4:48 p.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansPeptuck 1/22/08 5:49 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansDHalo 1/22/08 5:56 p.m.
                 Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*reprobate 1/22/08 7:46 p.m.
                       Re: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*InnerRayg 1/22/08 10:23 p.m.
                             Re: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*reprobate 1/22/08 11:14 p.m.
                                   Re: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*scarab 1/23/08 1:08 a.m.
                       Mendicant also has to do with Orders that do ChariZohak 1/23/08 1:01 a.m.
                             Someone who lives on Charity :-)scarab 1/23/08 1:10 a.m.
                                   Re: Someone who lives on Charity :-)reprobate 1/23/08 4:21 a.m.
                       >DHalo 1/23/08 6:12 a.m.
                             ^^ Its so much simpler than that...DHalo 1/23/08 6:15 a.m.
                                   Re: ^^ Its so much simpler than that...scarab 1/23/08 7:48 a.m.
                                   Actual quote, p276scarab 1/23/08 12:40 p.m.
           Re: Story Shenanigansscarab 1/23/08 7:46 a.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansRagashingo 1/22/08 6:57 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansCthulhu117 1/22/08 7:13 p.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansCthulhu117 1/22/08 7:07 p.m.
     Purottohoru ga!UrsusArctos 1/22/08 8:33 p.m.
           Liar. *BLAM!*Gravemind 1/23/08 12:15 a.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansOmega 1/22/08 11:13 p.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansAvateur 1/23/08 2:29 a.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansCthulhu117 1/23/08 12:56 p.m.
                 Re: Story ShenanigansAvateur 1/23/08 6:14 p.m.
     I'll get my broom.Narcogen 1/23/08 8:27 a.m.
           Re: I'll get my broom.scarab 1/23/08 10:57 a.m.
                 Re: I'll get my broom.scarab 1/23/08 11:03 a.m.
                       Just a thoughtscarab 1/23/08 11:07 a.m.
                             Re: Just a thoughtCthulhu117 1/23/08 12:58 p.m.
                             YearsNarcogen 1/23/08 7:57 p.m.
     Re: Story Shenanigansbedlam 1/23/08 4:30 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansKockynvainn 1/23/08 5:19 p.m.



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