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Re: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*
Posted By: InnerRaygDate: 1/22/08 10:23 p.m.

In Response To: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers* (reprobate)


: 1) The Hierarchs knew that humans were "Forerunner" or at least
: Reclaimers, so I still don't understand why it would be a surprise to them
: that humans were at the Ark given their obvious connection to the
: Forerunner. I know the Prophets and Elites and other Cov species probably
: found many other Forerunner ruins with no humans around, but it was
: specifically Regret who somehow didn't stop to think that reclaimers might
: possibly be on arguably the most important of all Forerunner artifacts?
: Maybe he was just hasty and didn't think of all the possible consequences,
: we kinda see that side of him in the book...

: 2) How do we know that Mendicant Bias is the Oracle from Contact Harvest? 343
: was an Oracle, and evidently there were others around (like 2401 or
: whatever), so unless I missed a detail in the book, I'm not sure how we
: can say for sure that MB is the Oracle from the Dreadnought. Certainly an
: AI in a Forerunner ship would lead one to assume that it is possibly the
: same as the one from the terminals, but who's to say that MB wasn't just
: stuck on the Ark the entire time?

On your second point-
Contact Harvest is what tells us that MB was not on the Ark the entire time. The terminals tell us MB was shut up in a single Forerunner Dreadnaught by his opponent (The other Bias, his name escapes me.).

Now in the book, we are told an oracle in the Forerunner Dreadnought ship, who looks like an Eye (similiar to something we know, hmm? Terminals maybe?) Is awakened after centuries of silence and announces that it wants to atone for it's sins and tries to leave for the Ark, after being shown Reclaimers lived.

What does MB want to do? He wants to right his wrongs. To atone, if you will.

That's a pretty obvious connect the dots kind of thing, In my Opinion.

As for the Regret thing, it is a puzzler. My personal opinion has been that Regret didn't really care if there were humans; he wanted to get to the Ark by himself and do what Truth was trying to. Activate the rings, kill everything in the universe except for himself, become a "God".


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Story ShenanigansCody Miller 1/22/08 2:24 p.m.
     Re: Story Shenanigansscarab 1/22/08 2:48 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansRaulboy 1/22/08 5:27 p.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansCaptain Spark 1/22/08 2:50 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansMcGrude 1/22/08 3:04 p.m.
                 Re: Story ShenanigansCaptain Spark 1/22/08 3:11 p.m.
                       Re: Story ShenanigansUrban Reflex 1/22/08 3:15 p.m.
                             Re: Story ShenanigansCaptain Spark 1/22/08 3:25 p.m.
                                   Re: Story Shenanigansthe Light Show 1/23/08 2:37 a.m.
                                         Re: Story Shenanigansscarab 1/23/08 8:15 a.m.
                                               Re: Story ShenanigansDon 4/4/08 3:06 p.m.
                                                     Either Didact, or just a random Forerunner. *NM*BlueNinja 4/4/08 4:02 p.m.
                       Re: Story ShenanigansCthulhu117 1/22/08 7:10 p.m.
                 Re: Story ShenanigansDiscipleN2k 1/22/08 3:27 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansCody Miller 1/22/08 3:30 p.m.
                 Re: Story ShenanigansCaptain Spark 1/22/08 3:37 p.m.
                       To borrow from Star Trek First Contact...McGrude 1/22/08 3:39 p.m.
                             I think we're overanalyzingelpolloguapo 1/22/08 4:52 p.m.
                             ^ i remember that! lol *NM*the Light Show 1/23/08 2:41 a.m.
                       No dice.Narcogen 1/23/08 10:01 a.m.
                 Other AnswersDHalo 1/22/08 3:38 p.m.
                       ...and a few more...Leviathan 1/22/08 4:25 p.m.
                             WaitKockynvainn 1/23/08 2:28 p.m.
                                   Re: Waitelpolloguapo 1/23/08 2:29 p.m.
                                         Re: WaitKockynvainn 1/23/08 2:54 p.m.
                                               Re: WaitLouis Wu 1/23/08 3:15 p.m.
                                                     OOPS!Kockynvainn 1/23/08 3:45 p.m.
                                                           And illiterate it seems... *NM*Kockynvainn 1/23/08 3:45 p.m.
                                               SEE? *NM*elpolloguapo 1/23/08 4:29 p.m.
                             Re: ...and a few more...Jillybean 1/25/08 7:58 a.m.
                                   Re: ...and a few more...UrsusArctos 1/25/08 8:47 a.m.
                                         Re: ...and a few more...Narcogen 1/26/08 12:34 a.m.
                                               Re: ...and a few more...UrsusArctos 1/26/08 7:23 p.m.
                       Thanks, intersting *NM*Cody Miller 1/22/08 9:33 p.m.
                       Re: Other AnswersRosco-128 1/22/08 9:44 p.m.
                             Re: Other Answersscarab 1/23/08 12:18 p.m.
                                   ooooh, i seeRosco-128 1/23/08 4:02 p.m.
                                   I can no longer like this theoryJillybean 1/25/08 8:37 a.m.
                                         You STILL hate Cortana?UrsusArctos 1/25/08 8:51 a.m.
                                         Re: I can no longer like this theoryPeptuck 1/25/08 10:50 a.m.
                                         Re: I can no longer like this theoryCody Miller 1/25/08 12:37 p.m.
                                               Re: I can no longer like this theoryCaptain Spark 1/25/08 2:04 p.m.
                                                     Re: I can no longer like this theoryLeviathan 1/25/08 2:49 p.m.
                                                           Re: I can no longer like this theoryelpolloguapo 1/25/08 3:09 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I can no longer like this theoryLeviathan 1/25/08 6:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: I can no longer like this theoryelpolloguapo 1/25/08 2:51 p.m.
                                                           Re: I can no longer like this theoryscarab 1/25/08 5:57 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I can no longer like this theoryelpolloguapo 1/25/08 8:53 p.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansClefton Twain 1/22/08 3:47 p.m.
           Answers.InnerRayg 1/22/08 4:38 p.m.
                 Canon: Best Defensive Option Is A Last Offensive..Narcogen 1/23/08 9:57 a.m.
                       Re: Canon: Best Defensive Option Is A Last OffensiSimpsons Rule 1/23/08 10:03 a.m.
                             Re: Canon: Best Defensive Option Is A Last OffensiNarcogen 1/23/08 10:19 a.m.
                 Re: Answers.scarab 1/23/08 12:21 p.m.
           Shamez-vous, CTelpolloguapo 1/22/08 4:56 p.m.
                 Re: Shamez-vous, CTClefton Twain 1/23/08 8:23 a.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansPeptuck 1/22/08 5:51 p.m.
                 Re: Story Shenanigansreprobate 1/22/08 7:37 p.m.
                 WTF do I know?Clefton Twain 1/23/08 7:58 a.m.
     Re: Story Shenaniganselpolloguapo 1/22/08 4:48 p.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansPeptuck 1/22/08 5:49 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansDHalo 1/22/08 5:56 p.m.
                 Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*reprobate 1/22/08 7:46 p.m.
                       Re: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*InnerRayg 1/22/08 10:23 p.m.
                             Re: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*reprobate 1/22/08 11:14 p.m.
                                   Re: Two Things *Minor Contact Harvest spoilers*scarab 1/23/08 1:08 a.m.
                       Mendicant also has to do with Orders that do ChariZohak 1/23/08 1:01 a.m.
                             Someone who lives on Charity :-)scarab 1/23/08 1:10 a.m.
                                   Re: Someone who lives on Charity :-)reprobate 1/23/08 4:21 a.m.
                       >DHalo 1/23/08 6:12 a.m.
                             ^^ Its so much simpler than that...DHalo 1/23/08 6:15 a.m.
                                   Re: ^^ Its so much simpler than that...scarab 1/23/08 7:48 a.m.
                                   Actual quote, p276scarab 1/23/08 12:40 p.m.
           Re: Story Shenanigansscarab 1/23/08 7:46 a.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansRagashingo 1/22/08 6:57 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansCthulhu117 1/22/08 7:13 p.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansCthulhu117 1/22/08 7:07 p.m.
     Purottohoru ga!UrsusArctos 1/22/08 8:33 p.m.
           Liar. *BLAM!*Gravemind 1/23/08 12:15 a.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansOmega 1/22/08 11:13 p.m.
     Re: Story ShenanigansAvateur 1/23/08 2:29 a.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansCthulhu117 1/23/08 12:56 p.m.
                 Re: Story ShenanigansAvateur 1/23/08 6:14 p.m.
     I'll get my broom.Narcogen 1/23/08 8:27 a.m.
           Re: I'll get my broom.scarab 1/23/08 10:57 a.m.
                 Re: I'll get my broom.scarab 1/23/08 11:03 a.m.
                       Just a thoughtscarab 1/23/08 11:07 a.m.
                             Re: Just a thoughtCthulhu117 1/23/08 12:58 p.m.
                             YearsNarcogen 1/23/08 7:57 p.m.
     Re: Story Shenanigansbedlam 1/23/08 4:30 p.m.
           Re: Story ShenanigansKockynvainn 1/23/08 5:19 p.m.



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