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Re: Halogen Beta?
Posted By: Miguel ChavezDate: 10/4/06 9:01 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Halogen Beta? (Narcogen)

: Invented the idea of making a RTS game out of a game that started as an RTS
: game.

I'm really starting to get annoyed at folks that keep bringing up that Halo started out as an RTS. What the hell is the point? Did we EVER see it as even an ALPHA RTS? All we have is a movie that shows a bunch of tiny marines hopping like mexican jumping beans. Short films of jeeps and aircraft hovering around doesn't mean squat. And what's the most damning evidence? BUNGIE THEMSELVES DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD WORK AS AN RTS AND ABANDONED IT.

I pass no judgement on Ensemble's take on the Halo RTS, I'll play it when it's done and assess it then. Seriously. But this constant 'defense' of "Halo started as an RTS" is so disingenous, I have to call bullshit. If in the early stages of Halo development, someone had sketched out Halo's gameplay using a board game as a mental exercise, would we be going around claiming "Halo started out as a boardgame"?

- M


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Halogen Beta?Sharkface217 10/3/06 2:37 p.m.
     Re: Halogen Beta?KP 10/3/06 2:52 p.m.
           Re: Halogen Beta?WortWortWort 10/3/06 7:39 p.m.
                 Re: Halogen Beta?WortWortWort 10/3/06 7:42 p.m.
                       Re: Halogen Beta?WortWortWort 10/3/06 7:53 p.m.
                 Re: Halogen Beta?N/A 10/3/06 8:01 p.m.
                 Re: Halogen Beta?DarkSim 10/3/06 8:17 p.m.
                       Re: Halogen Beta?WortWortWort 10/3/06 9:18 p.m.
                             Re: Halogen Beta?Narcogen 10/4/06 12:16 a.m.
                                   Re: Halogen Beta?Miguel Chavez 10/4/06 9:01 a.m.
                                         Re: Halogen Beta?UrsusArctos 10/4/06 9:20 a.m.
                                         Re: Halogen Beta?Matt 10/4/06 9:45 a.m.
                                               Re: Halogen Beta?Hawaiian Pig 10/4/06 10:40 a.m.
                                                     Re: Halogen Beta?Matt 10/4/06 2:39 p.m.
                                                           Re: Halogen Beta?Dry Ice 10/4/06 3:06 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Halogen Beta?Dry Ice 10/4/06 3:09 p.m.
                                               Re: Halogen Beta?Narcogen 10/4/06 10:56 a.m.
                                                     Re: Halogen Beta?Matt 10/4/06 2:37 p.m.
                                                     Re: Halogen Beta?Count Zero 10/4/06 3:00 p.m.
                                                           Re: Halogen Beta?Louis Wu 10/4/06 3:27 p.m.
                                                           Re: Halogen Beta?Hawaiian Pig 10/4/06 7:23 p.m.
                                         Re: Halogen Beta?Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/4/06 9:56 a.m.
                                         Re: Halogen Beta?Narcogen 10/4/06 10:54 a.m.
                                               Re: Halogen Beta?Hawaiian Pig 10/4/06 10:58 a.m.
                                                     Re: Halogen Beta?Schedonnardus 10/4/06 3:26 p.m.
                                                           Re: Halogen Beta?Matt 10/4/06 3:42 p.m.
                                                                 Someone's been swigging the cough syrup again. *NM*Louis Wu 10/4/06 4:32 p.m.
                                                           Re: Halogen Beta?mercury 10/4/06 4:38 p.m.
                                                           Re: Halogen Beta?Narcogen 10/4/06 8:32 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Halogen Beta?Schedonnardus 10/5/06 11:06 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Halogen Beta?Endbringer 10/5/06 11:31 a.m.
                                                                       Nice!Miguel Chavez 10/5/06 12:41 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Nice!Sep7imus [subnova] 10/5/06 2:12 p.m.
                                                     This is what I meant, yesMiguel Chavez 10/4/06 5:44 p.m.
                                                     A Mod Developer's Take on the SituationRedMoney999 10/4/06 8:08 p.m.
                                                           Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the SituationNarcogen 10/4/06 8:59 p.m.
                                                                 Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the SituationMiguel Chavez 10/4/06 10:21 p.m.
                                                                       Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the SituationSep7imus [subnova] 10/5/06 2:22 p.m.
                                                                 Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the SituationRedMonkey999 10/5/06 11:18 p.m.
                                                                       Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the SituationLouis Wu 10/6/06 4:45 a.m.
                                                                             Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the SituationRedMonkey999 10/8/06 3:44 p.m.
                                         Re: Halogen Beta?Konrad 10/4/06 11:08 a.m.
                                               Heh! *NM*Stuntmutt 10/4/06 11:15 a.m.
                 Re: Halogen Beta?Narcogen 10/4/06 12:07 a.m.
                       Couldn't be said any better. *NM*Cocopjojo 10/4/06 1:22 a.m.
                       Re: Halogen Beta?BARBARIC RAGE 10/4/06 12:21 p.m.
                             Re: Halogen Beta?mercury 10/4/06 1:22 p.m.
     Re: Halogen Beta?mercury 10/3/06 4:43 p.m.
           Bungie didn't shut them down.58 10/3/06 5:40 p.m.
                 Re: Bungie didn't shut them down.Sharkface217 10/3/06 7:59 p.m.
                 Bungie's role in Halogen shutdownNarcogen 10/4/06 12:22 a.m.
                       Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdownRox 10/4/06 3:07 a.m.
                             Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdownNarcogen 10/4/06 4:14 a.m.
                                   Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdownRox 10/4/06 7:54 a.m.
                                         Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdownNarcogen 10/4/06 10:58 a.m.
                                   HBO: Waiting for Microsoft lawyers to shut us down *NM*Stuntmutt 10/4/06 8:44 a.m.
                                         They'll be sure to shut down One One Se7en firstUrsusArctos 10/4/06 8:47 a.m.
                                               Re: They'll be sure to shut down One One Se7en firUrsusArctos 10/4/06 8:50 a.m.
                                                     To clarify my position...Stuntmutt 10/4/06 9:18 a.m.
                                                           Re: To clarify my position...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/4/06 9:53 a.m.
                                                                 Re: To clarify my position...A of T 10/4/06 11:54 a.m.
                                                                 Re: To clarify my position...Miguel Chavez 10/4/06 3:45 p.m.
                                                                       Re: To clarify my position...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/4/06 3:54 p.m.
                                                                 Re: To clarify my position...Blck 10/5/06 2:27 p.m.
                                                           Re: To clarify my position...try starcraft :pvshields ash 10/6/06 4:25 a.m.
                                                                 Re: To clarify my position...try starcraft :pShortRoundMcfly 10/6/06 7:05 p.m.
                                                                       Re: To clarify my position...try starcraft :pUrsusArctos 10/7/06 11:53 p.m.
                                                                             Re: To clarify my position...try starcraft :pSparkamus 10/8/06 12:51 a.m.
                             Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdownMiguel Chavez 10/4/06 9:03 a.m.
                             Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdownVlad3163 10/4/06 9:48 a.m.
                             Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdownShortRoundMcfly 10/4/06 12:58 p.m.
                                   Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdownNarcogen 10/4/06 9:02 p.m.
                 Re: Bungie didn't shut them down.mercury 10/4/06 1:09 p.m.
     Re: Halogen Beta?Quikthnkr 10/4/06 1:37 p.m.
     A Mod Developer's Take on the SituationRedMonkey999 10/4/06 8:17 p.m.
           Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the SituationSharkface217 10/4/06 8:47 p.m.
                 Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the SituationThe 'Loot 10/5/06 2:47 a.m.
           Re: A Mod Developer's Take-meh...vshields ash 10/6/06 4:42 a.m.



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