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	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.
	Posted By: Lion O Cyborg	Date: 12/11/15 1:08 a.m.
	In Response To: PiD's artifacts are weird. (General-RADIX) : I'm reaching for things to discuss besides asking what e-mails the Rubicon : team are using now. Sure hope I'm not accidentally repeating a topic. : Much of said weirdness comes from PiD being retroactively attached to a : series that doesn't have anything like that, but even so--how can this : normal-looking cedar box reproduce anything placed inside it? Why is there : an infinity hole inside this red velvet bag? Why would the W'rkncacnter : dream of, and thus inadvertently give Austin (the Sergeant), the only : means to kill some of its own constructs? : Mostly personal theories as to what these things are. For those of you that : can make it through the incoming walls of text, please discuss. : -- : The Crystals: All that PiD really says about these is that they're powerful : and mysterious, yet have finite charges (unless they're yellow). Not : terribly helpful. : I don't think the W'rk would dream of anything that would put it at a : disadvantage (assuming its control over its dreams is that precise), so : the crystals were probably brought into the anomalous pyramid. By who, : though? My first thought was that the Jjaro were secretly beaming them in : for Austin's use, but if they could do that, they could probably teleport : themselves to Earth and take care of the W'rk sooner. Doubt is probably the one in the Lh'owon sun, so this may not work. I dm't think that would stop it from screwing up its own plans with a mere thought however. Then again, the crystals could have been weapons he used at the Magellan Clouds battle that drifted to Earth with him. : Then I remembered that Muller claims to know nothing of the crystals, yet : gives the same response to certain colours even though the context for : that could be anything. Likely just a quirk of PiD's dialogue system, but : could still potentially point towards Muller's expedition being the ones : to take them in. They get squooshed like bugs and the W'rk's constructs : scatter the crystals to places that future explorers are unlikely to look : in/survive to. The wrk may have intended him to use the crystals to get downstairs and free him like I theorised before. When muller died and his and thewrk's plan failed, the wrk moved the crystals away from him to guard them against invaders. They just weren't as safe as he thought. : So how did Muller acquire them in the first place when there's nothing on : Earth like them? I hate to say that they just happened to fall planet-side : on various meteors and were recovered years apart, but at the same time, I : don't want to keep falling back on "the Jjaro did it". The : crystals might be found in a part of the universe that Durandal hasn't : gone to yet, hence why he and Vincent (the SO) don't come across any. : -- : The Potions: I'm stumped. Could also be of alien make, but if the Jjaro are : providing Austin with them (see above for why I don't think they could), : I'd like to think that they'd have a means for him to avoid the Oozes that : didn't put his life at risk. No idea where they came from but I do believe the blue potion is colloid silver, which was a human placebo for a while. Maybe bungie liked silver and goldschlager and wanted players to have a mix of the two as a health pickup. The spice couldn't be the latter drink's cinnamon though unless Austin Eddsings had never smelled cinnimon before. : If they've been sitting around as long as the pyramid's been there, then even : the Blue Potion would make Austin wretch his guts up, but I digress. : The Cedar Box: If the W'rk can dream things into reality, then it wouldn't : have much use for a 3D printer. Yet Muller had Walter go hunting for it, : meaning it was already in the pyramid--and Muller knew it was there to : begin with. Strange... Maybe if my theory that Muller had a deal with the wrk was correct, he was intended to find the box to help him fight his way down to wake up the god and also use it to copy some gold. They all died before they could get lower down or get the box so the wrk failed. : Perhaps the W'rk created it after all--a way to lure in the avaricious (after : all, it's ideal for turning one gold ingot into many ingots) that Austin : finds a more practical use for. As for why Muller knew about it--maybe, : prior to the expedition, someone went in, found it, left the pyramid, : radioed in, and then got filleted by a stray monster. Or this wasn't : Muller's first trip here; he just didn't have time to grab anything. : -- : The Red Velvet Bag: Possibly exists for the same theorized reason as the : Cedar Box: greedy grave-robbers stick around too long in the hopes of : stuffing more valuables in and get hacked apart. Good thing Austin isn't : so single-minded... A Forever bag. They use 5D space technology like the TARDIS has to make the inside massive to hold virtually limitless items. A thief encountered by allies of pre-battleroid Marcus had a similar one he used to hide what he and his unwilling accomplicices stole. : -- : The Red Cloak: No idea, unless it was only meant for the monsters' use. IIRC, : you find it not too far from where you need it...hm. : Again, if the Jjaro were close enough to send items to Austin, they'd be : close enough to jump to Earth themselves. But the Jjaro canonically know : more than a few things about manipulating time and space... : -- : Muller's Magic Bagpipes: Explicitly alien in nature, but which aliens made : them? Not the Jjaro, I'd think; surely Yrro and his mates wouldn't allow : the creation or re-purposing-into of anything that could aid the W'rk. : Was this some kind of heavily-displaced Pfhor artifact? It bears a slight : resemblance to the M1 Enforcers' scatter-gun, and Infinity sees them : accidentally unleash the W'rk; thus, the Bagpipes being Pfhoric would be : thematically-appropriate. i think it is a Jjaro synthesiser flute that was just on a woodwind or brass setting when Austin found it. The Pfhor might have found something similar in a Jjaro outpost and the Pfhor bureaucrats thought it would make a nice weapon in their twisted logic. : -- : That's what I can think of for now.

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	PiD's artifacts are weird.	General-RADIX	12/10/15 2:19 p.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	Lion O Cyborg	12/11/15 1:08 a.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	Lion O Cyborg	12/11/15 1:13 a.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	VikingBoyBilly	12/11/15 4:36 a.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	General-RADIX	12/11/15 8:55 a.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	Lion O Cyborg	12/12/15 1:24 a.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	VikingBoyBilly	12/14/15 4:17 a.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	Lion O Cyborg	12/14/15 7:28 a.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	VikingBoyBilly	12/14/15 1:46 p.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	Bob-B-Q	12/15/15 8:08 a.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	Can-ned Food	6/28/16 11:26 a.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	Tacticus	12/11/15 9:30 a.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	General-RADIX	12/11/15 9:51 a.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	Philtron	12/11/15 3:08 p.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	General-RADIX	12/11/15 3:39 p.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	Hopper	12/11/15 9:45 p.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	General-RADIX	12/11/15 11:12 p.m.
	Re: PiD's artifacts are weird.	Lion O Cyborg	12/12/15 1:27 a.m.
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