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Re: Bungie Rip-Offs, Revisited
Posted By: SiliconDream =PN=Date: 2/4/02 1:29 a.m.

In Response To: Bungie Rip-Offs, Revisited (Beer Can)

: Greetings: Well, it appears I've gotten something started here, eh?
: But wait: There's more.
: Has anyone mentioned that this so-called "Sleeping God" is directly
: similar to Lovecraft's "Cthulhu"? I mean, come
: on..."Cthulhu sleeping, lies dreaming"?
: And how about those "Lovecraftian" spellings, like R'Leah (sp?),
: and so on, present in all the Bungie stuff.

Yep. :-) http://marathon.bungie.org/story/cthulhu.html

: And still more...
: Myth: The Necromancers and the Ghols, almost directly lifted from Clark
: Ashton Smith's "Zothique." You may say the Necromancer character
: is but similar...yet the Ghols are just about the same creature, far as I
: can tell.
: Do read the Zothique story, "Isle of the Necromancers." Hell, read
: the whole of "Zothique." I can't remember which story the Ghols
: appear in, but it's during a desert sequence...

http://carnage.bungie.org/myth/asylum/asylum.forum.pl?read=7309

;-)

I'd say the Myth Ghols are half and half Smith and Lovecraft in origin. Plus the baboon-fighting episode of the Simpsons.

If you recognize more examples of Smith/Lovecraft influence on Myth, I'd be interested to hear about them. Legends and Lore catalogued a few of the obvious Lovecraft ones, but I'm sure there's piles more.

: So if these Bungie guys (God love 'em) have no qualms about
: "borrowing" from Lovecraft, C.A. Smith, and major films like
: PREDATOR, they'll borrow from anything. And everything.

Oh, hardly. Everyone borrows from Lovecraft, Smith and/or Howard. That's why they're the Big Three of weird fiction. Bungie just did it more explicitly, which is part of what makes it cool.

: Just an interesting observation.
: I still love their games, however.
: P.S. Lovecraft and Smith were good buddies..and Lovecraft even joking used C.
: A. Smith as a character in one of his stories, name of "K'lar
: K'ashton," or somesuch.

Klarkash-Ton, Atlantean priest. They signed their letters to each other like that sometimes. A lot of the writers in that circle swapped characters and featured each other in their stories...no doubt you've read the Robert Blake reference (as mentioned on the Story Page).

--SiliconDream

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Bungie Rip-Offs, RevisitedBeer Can 2/4/02 12:44 a.m.
     Re: Bungie Rip-Offs, RevisitedSiliconDream =PN= 2/4/02 1:29 a.m.
           Re: Bungie Rip-Offs, RevisitedBeer Can 2/4/02 5:26 p.m.
                 Re: Bungie Rip-Offs, RevisitedSiliconDream =PN= 2/5/02 1:01 a.m.
     Re: Bungie Rip-Offs, RevisitedAJS 2/4/02 11:31 p.m.
     Re: Bungie Rip-Offs, RevisitedMax Etchemendy 2/5/02 9:13 p.m.
           Re: Bungie Rip-Offs, RevisitedBeer Can 2/6/02 1:09 a.m.
                 Re: Bungie Rip-Offs, RevisitedMax Etchemendy 2/6/02 3:44 p.m.
                       My apologies...SiliconDream =PN= 2/6/02 5:37 p.m.
                       Re: Bungie Rip-Offs, RevisitedBeer Can 2/6/02 9:40 p.m.
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