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Re: Rubicon Rating in Arkives
Posted By: C LundDate: 10/9/02 4:56 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Rubicon Rating in Arkives (goran)

: Have you noticed that it is mostly mapmakers that have rated it low?

IIRC, there were three groups of people who trashed Rubicon:

1) l33t player d00dZ who were expecting a 3d fps game with graphics to rival UT and Q3. They couldn't accept the 2.5d Marathon engine and didn't see why anybody would want to *read* when playing a game. I don't think many of them had even played any of the original Marathon games. You can find their comments on download.com. Some of them are quite funny. (goes to site and takes a look) Hmm.. 28 thousand downloads. Not bad. B)

2) Members of the Nardo group (you know, the guys who did TI) - especially JHT. He absolutely *hated* Rubicon.

3) "Frigidman" and his court. FM wrote a long critique which (IIRC) had some valid criticisms, some subjective issues which he is free to have, and some complaints that were so specious that I was left with the impression he was searching for things to complain about - such as pre-dead Bobs and monsters that would kill each other while the player wasn't looking. And then of course all those kewl d00dz at the evihcra forums chimed in in an attempt at emulating their hero. There were threads there titled "Red Rox Rubicon Sux" (or some such thing). Quite silly, really. I wonder if those threads are still available at evihcra?

A common complaint from 2) and 3) was the lack of flow in the levels. Uh.. ok? Having read enough of those complaints, I'm left with the impression that the players would have preferred linear levels where the player only had one place to go. Personally, I prefer levels that feel like real places - and that means being able to go a great many different places. But each to his/her own taste.

: -goran

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                 Re: Rubicon Rating in ArkivesScifiteki 10/9/02 4:31 a.m.
                       Re: Rubicon Rating in ArkivesSteve Levinson 10/9/02 9:45 a.m.
                       Re: Rubicon Rating in ArkivesC Lund 10/9/02 5:04 p.m.
                             Re: Rubicon Rating in ArkivesScifiteki 10/10/02 1:31 a.m.
                 Re: Rubicon Rating in Arkivesgoran 10/10/02 2:39 a.m.
                       Re: Rubicon Rating in Arkives:: Beer Can :: 10/10/02 9:42 a.m.
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           Re: Rubicon Rating in ArkivesC Lund 10/9/02 4:56 p.m.
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                             Re: Rubicon Rating in ArkivesSteve Levinson 10/11/02 9:37 a.m.
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