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Posted By: CharlesS | Date: 12/8/01 9:11 p.m. | |
In Response To: Re: Durandal and Thoth (David Curry) : Heavy emphasis on "really stretching." That's the point! I said it right there in the posting. I'm coming up with far-out ideas, to stimulate the imagination. Some of this may or may not be true. Other stuff in here could depend on what the individual decides to believe about it, because there's no real right answer! It's fiction, and there are some parts that there is no definite "this is the truth" answer to things. So we come up with all the ideas we can think of, and throw them in and speculate about them. That's the fun of it! With that said: : The difference between the Mac OS and Unix (or the Powerbook virus and the
I'm an intelligent being with the ability to learn and adapt on my own. It doesn't mean that I know how to wire my brain to someone else's. Especially in the case of Durandal/Thoth where they are completely different in structure and design. Unless, of course, the same party created them both. : While it's quite possible that Durandal was developed with Jjaro technology,
That's why I said he would not have a clear picture of all Yrro's memories. The bit about an old dream. Same goes for the Marine who might also have some vague memories. Like you said, the water is muddied, so it is all very foggy. Except for the W'rkncacnter. If you read the manual text, it is very obvious that Durandal knew about that in advance. He even sent a "ridiculous warning" to the Pfhor, telling them what would happen if they set off the early nova. : This seems unlikely. As I stated earlier, it's pretty clear that Durandal
So the Jjaro would build an AI and never, ever turn it on? That seems very unlikely. And anyway, if Yrro was split from Thoth, the humans could have built Traxus, Durandal, Leela, Tycho, et al. from Yrro, no matter how long Thoth had been dormant. There's actually a precedent for this. The S'pht, acting under orders from the Pfhor, used Durandal's pattern to rebuild Tycho, who had been destroyed. : Except that Strauss was keeping Durandal in check while on the Marathon, and
The fact that Strauss kept Durandal in check has nothing to do with the fact that Durandal himself did not have a sense of balance. And how do you figure that Durandal was no longer rampant at the end of M2? He eventually went and named his ship a name that means the hand of God, for crying out loud. He still had the ego problem, and he still wanted to follow through with his crazy plan to escape the universe. : That may be referring to (Durandal/)Thoth being in contact
Maybe. But what's the fun in that? And since when does "whole" == "in contact" anyway? : Remember that Durandal just kept the symbol from the Marathon (which was also
True, but who knows? The humans could have got that symbol from Yrro to begin with. The similarities between the Jjaro symbol and a combination of the Durandal and Thoth icons are just too coincidental for my taste... : It was said that Yrro was angry when he trapped the W'rkncacnter in the sun.
The "angry master" bit is from terminal text in M2. : I'm pretty sure one of the folks from Bungie said that was the Jjaro symbol.
Could be. But why are the symbols so similar? : Again, the terminal says that Yrro was in despair when he fled, I doubt he
I debated about that when I wrote the original post, whether to make Yrro in despair or anger. Either way works, really. If Yrro is out for vengeance against all W'rkncacnter, that leads him to Earth, but Yrro could have been trying to hide away in despair (maybe even trying to escape the universe!) and just happened to run into the W'rkncacnter around Earth. Both work. Point taken about the direct copy. I was out of line in saying that. However, a good majority of the tech should still be Jjaro, since we don't understand it well enough to give it a complete overhaul by any estimation. : Durandal called the Pfhor to take their ship (and all the cool new toys
Sure, maybe Durandal thought he was doing it for these motivations, but there could have been a subconscious directive running. Durandal had very little reason to go to Lh'owon other than that the S'pht wanted him to. |
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Re: Durandal and Thoth | CharlesS | 12/8/01 5:00 p.m. | |
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Re: Durandal and Thoth | CharlesS | 12/8/01 9:11 p.m. | |
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