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Re: Date Inconsistencies
Posted By: NarcogenDate: 9/25/01 3:48 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Date Inconsistencies (ReconN)

: Then there's still the possibility that all the dates we know are wrong
: because of the scrambling of Marathon systems, as Hippieman mentioned.

Possibly.

But that would merely explain why some things that seem stupid have happened-- like carving a single, slow colony ship out of an asteroid when there are already many extrasolar colonies and FTL travel.

However, if the dates were merely scrambled, then what you'd need to suppose is that nearly all the dates in Marathon need to be pushed back further into the past than they are. And even doing that doesn't explain why there's no mention of those events in the Halo backstory.

Furthermore... if the dates were scrambled, it would be to deceive the Pfhor. In what way would such a deception be useful?

Well, either to make the humans seem MORE formidable than they are, and thus dissuade the Pfhor from attacking. This seems unlikely to work-- it'd be hard to pretend they had FTL earlier than they really did when the Pfhor already have it and the Marathon doesn't.

The other way would be to try and make humans seems LESS formidable than they are, to lull the Pfhor into a false sense of security, and get them to underestimate the resistance they'd face. To do this, you'd adjust the timeline FORWARD, not backward-- the opposite of what you have to do in order to mesh the timelines of Halo and Marathon.

So the only way the scrambling would work to solve the discrepancies doesn't make sense within the context of the Marathon timeline, and the way that makes sense in the Marathon timeline wouldn't help reconcile the discrepancies.

In short... I think we're dealing either with a dream, an alternate universe, or simply two works on a similar theme by the same group of authors, with a few tantalizing similarities thrown in to spark discussion :)

Rampancy


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