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Posted By: Rick Blaine | Date: 5/17/02 3:11 p.m. | |
In Response To: Nice. (MakeMineRed) [snip] : Not so. A bear trap has an easily determined means of escape as well (just
A very good argument. I guess we need to add the notion of 'self-sacrifice' to the list of requirements needed to pass the test. Consider a race of beings who is smart enough to find a ring, & curious enough to release the flood. If they aren't capable of killing _themselves_ along with the flood, they fail the test. It's only sheer dumb luck (?) that that last *operational* Longsword was left aboard the PoA. And yes, to everyone still reading this thread out there, it is easy for us to imagine a species that can get to a ring, and that the only thing they would do is have a beachparty before moving on. Smart, and curious. And capable of self-sacrifice. : story being told (space opera), and neatly answers the question I posed
Agreed. 343 GS does state in an oblique fashon that the rings have been used before. : humanity, if we were at a suitably sentient level. It is extremely If we were at a suitably sentient level. When was the last time a Halo was triggered? 65 million years? 30 thousand years? I don't know. : unlikely that humanity would have re-evolved. The same is true for any
343 GS claims to know the MC. Does he really? Or does he just 'know' him by his job description of "Reclaimer"? Trying to explain this snarl is what messed me up & flushed me down the whole 'multiverse' toilet. It's clear that 343 GS views the MC as a disposable tool from this when the MC balks at pulling the trigger:
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If you are unwilling to help, I will simply find another. Still, I must have the index. Give your construct to me, or I will be forced to take her from you. MASTER CHIEF: That's not going to happen. 343 GUILTY SPARK: So be it. Save his head. Dispose of the rest. (343 Guilty Spark teleports away, and his Sentinels attack)
: knowledge of humanity's history, implying that humanity was around when Let's examine what 343 GS said on "...And the Horse You Rode In On": http://halo.bungie.org/story/level_transcripts/lv10_maw.html [quote]
He's in my data arrays, a local tap! (Cut to 343 GS) 343 GUILTY SPARK: You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all of our lost time! Human history, is it? Fascinating.
"Human history, is it?" That's a question, *not* a statement. And why is he so excited? Has he ever even imagined the story of human history before this moment? : the Forerunners, or at least 343 GS, were still striding the galaxy. This
If the Forerunner created this whole elaborate scheme to turn the galaxy into an incubator, then in a way all human history does belong to them, because they indirectly created us. The time was 'lost' because the Forerunner were someplace else, not watching us. Of course, they all could be dead & nobody told 343 GS. Circular reasoning? Sure it is. Can somebody out there find another interpertation that fits the observed facts? : very well be an intelligence test, but maybe humanity's role is that of a
A very unique & interesting idea. : MakeMineRed |
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*Halo Spoiler* The trap. | Rick Blaine | 5/14/02 5:59 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* The trap. | Claude Errera | 5/14/02 6:39 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* The trap. | archon | 5/14/02 11:14 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* The trap. | archon | 5/14/02 11:20 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* The trap. | Dan Johnson | 5/15/02 10:01 p.m. | |
not intelligent life... | Napalm Boy | 5/17/02 11:52 a.m. | |
Re: not intelligent life... | archon | 5/17/02 12:32 p.m. | |
*Halo Spoiler* Re: not intelligent life... | Rick Blaine | 5/17/02 1:04 p.m. | |
*Halo Spoiler* Re: not intelligent life... | Napalm Boy | 5/17/02 2:41 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* Re: not intelligent life... | PfhorSlayer | 5/24/02 8:17 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* Re: not intelligent life... | Mark Levin | 5/24/02 9:41 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* Re: not intelligent life... | John Denton | 5/25/02 5:57 p.m. | |
a terrifying possibilty | John Denton | 5/25/02 12:18 a.m. | |
Re: a terrifying possibilty | Tru7h | 5/25/02 6:06 a.m. | |
Re: a terrifying possibilty | zudo | 5/25/02 7:39 a.m. | |
Re: a terrifying possibilty | Tru7h | 5/25/02 10:07 a.m. | |
Re: a terrifying possibilty | Boomer | 5/25/02 10:47 a.m. | |
You must read the Dirk Gently books. | John Denton | 5/25/02 5:55 p.m. | |
Physics >> Biology | Cow Mutilator | 5/26/02 11:29 a.m. | |
Re: Physics >> Biology | Tru7h | 5/26/02 8:05 p.m. | |
Watch out | John Denton | 5/27/02 8:06 p.m. | |
Re: Watch out | Tynskel | 5/31/02 4:59 p.m. | |
Re: Watch out | Tru7h | 6/1/02 5:43 a.m. | |
Re: Physics >> Biology | John Denton | 5/27/02 7:57 p.m. | |
but we know how to do those calculations | Tru7h | 5/28/02 2:13 p.m. | |
well... | John Denton | 5/25/02 5:50 p.m. | |
Re: well... | Tru7h | 5/25/02 7:07 p.m. | |
Re: well... | Boomer | 5/25/02 8:34 p.m. | |
They are pretty zombieesque. *NM* | John Denton | 5/25/02 10:03 p.m. | |
Re: well... | Tru7h | 5/26/02 6:44 a.m. | |
Re: well... | Boomer | 5/26/02 7:25 a.m. | |
You Mean Armor *NM* | REB | 5/26/02 8:07 a.m. | |
Re: well... | Elite Spartan II | 5/26/02 8:57 a.m. | |
Re: well... | Djof | 5/26/02 4:55 p.m. | |
Re: well... | Elite Spartan II | 5/26/02 5:44 p.m. | |
they cant if ther Dead!!! *NM* | Tru7h | 5/26/02 8:06 p.m. | |
Re: well... | Elite Spartan II | 5/26/02 8:46 a.m. | |
Re: well... | Tru7h | 5/26/02 8:08 p.m. | |
Re: well... | Tynskel | 5/31/02 5:07 p.m. | |
Re: well... | Tynskel | 5/31/02 5:02 p.m. | |
Re: well... | Tru7h | 6/1/02 5:45 a.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* Re: not intelligent life... | Hydroconcil87 | 6/28/02 1:49 a.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* Re: not intelligent life... | Hydroconcil87 | 6/28/02 2:11 a.m. | |
Nice. | MakeMineRed | 5/17/02 1:40 p.m. | |
*Halo Spoiler* Re: Nice. | Rick Blaine | 5/17/02 3:11 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* Re: Nice. | archon | 5/17/02 6:01 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* Re: Nice. | PesTiLenCe | 5/21/02 1:46 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* Re: Nice. | archon | 5/21/02 6:47 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* Re: Nice. | archon | 5/21/02 6:50 p.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* Re: Nice. | •M | 5/26/02 5:30 a.m. | |
Re: *Halo Spoiler* The trap. | John Denton | 5/23/02 4:57 p.m. | |
Um, Correct Me If I'm Wrong... | ATMantis | 5/26/02 6:40 a.m. | |
Re: Um, Correct Me If I'm Wrong... | ATMantis | 5/27/02 7:51 p.m. | |
Re: Um, Correct Me If I'm Wrong... | John Denton | 5/27/02 8:25 p.m. | |
Re: Um, Correct Me If I'm Wrong... | ATMantis | 6/1/02 1:03 a.m. | |
Re: Um, Correct Me If I'm Wrong... | John Denton | 5/27/02 8:19 p.m. |
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