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Posted By: Rick Blaine | Date: 5/7/02 11:48 p.m. | |
In Response To: Re: Honorable fight (Mark Levin) : I thought this was the point that is under discussion, therefore it could not
What is truth? The only meaningful tests of the validity of a conjecture are how many previously unexplaned phenomena does it clarify, does it provide predictions that can be tested by experiment, and are those predictions contradicted by the results of those experiments, or by any observable fact. This is the fundamental principle underlying both science and mathematics. Eucilid assumed that a there is only one straight line through a point not on a given line paralel to that line. He built an entire internally consistant sytem of thought upon the rock of that single postulate. Is this postulate true? Sure it is, within the confines of a single flat sheet of graph paper. But not on the surface of a sphere (or of a pseudosphere). Was Eucilid a liar? Was his postulate wrong? No, he just never went far enough. He never ate the path. The Marathon timeline is internaly consistant. This is a fact.
Particles or waves? Why not both? If we assume two postulates, we can repair the cracks and explain much. Eat the path. Besides, if we don't do this, we'll eventually run out of things to argue about & never escape the closure of the universe! The first postulate is that the Mk. IV Cyborg & Durandal are merely hosts for the eternal beings described in the KYT Term. This postulate is supported by the fact their paring was able to jump from timeline to timeline whenever the outcome of their actions didn't suit their purposes. Not the sort of thing you might expect from just a lonely cyborg & a rampant AI, but the kind of serious juju that only eternal beings can muster.
The second postulate is that the beings from the KYT Term can manifest in any host, organic, cybernetic, or any combination of the two. Hey, what good is being an eternal if you can't yank the mortals chains every once in a while? This ties Marathon & Halo together, through the MC & Cortana being merely new vessels for those same eternal beings.
And once we tie them together, we can import information from one game to another. We can explain much.
We can explain why the Covenant hate us so much at first sight. And more stuff I can't think of right now 'cause it's too late here on the east coast & I've gotta get some sleep.
Oops. We need a thrid postulate to keep that Claude guy from throwing a hissy fit over time travel. The eternal beings exist in a linear fashion within their own frame of reference. Time's arrow still points just one way for them, regardless of anything nasty that happens to mere mortals like us.
: Random question: Do you believe there is any weight to the writings of
Well, he seems to have missed the date for the start of WWIII by several years now.
Or did he?
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halo=marathon universe? | Thirdeye | 5/1/02 3:33 p.m. | |
Re: halo=marathon universe? | archon | 5/1/02 7:31 p.m. | |
Re: halo=marathon universe? | Johannes Gunnar | 5/2/02 10:48 a.m. | |
Re: halo=marathon universe? | Shishka | 5/2/02 6:21 p.m. | |
Re: halo=marathon universe? | Claude Errera | 5/3/02 8:21 a.m. | |
Re: halo=marathon universe? | zudo | 5/3/02 9:34 a.m. | |
they never stop, hoping do they:) *NM* | Tru7h | 5/3/02 12:11 p.m. | |
Re: halo=marathon universe? | mnemesis | 5/3/02 12:20 p.m. | |
Re: halo=marathon universe? | Djof | 5/3/02 6:19 p.m. | |
Re: halo=marathon universe? | [zudo] | 5/4/02 8:05 a.m. | |
Re: halo=marathon universe? | Djof | 5/4/02 3:31 p.m. | |
Oh well then you must be right ;p *NM* | [zudo] | 5/5/02 6:25 a.m. | |
Oh well then you must be right ;p | zudo | 5/5/02 6:26 a.m. | |
The Halo versus Marathon case. | Djof | 5/5/02 12:03 p.m. | |
Re: The Halo versus Marathon case. | Johannes Gunnar | 5/5/02 12:35 p.m. | |
Haleluya!!!! *NM* | Tru7h | 5/5/02 1:33 p.m. | |
Re: Halo vs Marathon (mild spoiler) | zudo | 5/5/02 3:28 p.m. | |
Re: Halo vs Marathon (mild spoiler) | archon | 5/5/02 6:42 p.m. | |
Re: Halo vs Marathon (mild spoiler) | Djof | 5/5/02 7:36 p.m. | |
Re: Halo vs Marathon (mild spoiler) | Tru7h | 5/6/02 3:09 p.m. | |
Re: Halo vs Marathon (mild spoiler) | Djof | 5/6/02 7:15 p.m. | |
Re: Halo vs Marathon (mild spoiler) | Mark Levin | 5/6/02 1:04 a.m. | |
Re: The Halo versus Marathon case. | Rick Blaine | 5/6/02 9:24 p.m. | |
Honorable fight | Djof@School | 5/7/02 8:20 a.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | zudo | 5/7/02 2:53 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Tru7h | 5/7/02 3:44 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Rick Blaine | 5/7/02 6:09 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Tru7h | 5/7/02 8:04 p.m. | |
My public apology to Tru7h | Rick Blaine | 5/7/02 8:18 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | zudo | 5/8/02 1:15 a.m. | |
isnt Tycho Brahe that guy from PennyArcade? NM *NM* | Ernie | 5/11/02 12:48 p.m. | |
I smell geek funk (and I hope irony) :D *NM* | zudo | 5/11/02 1:55 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Djof | 5/7/02 4:49 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | zudo | 5/8/02 1:19 a.m. | |
Reading carefully... | Claude Errera | 5/8/02 7:29 a.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Rick Blaine | 5/7/02 5:37 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Mark Levin | 5/7/02 8:09 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Rick Blaine | 5/7/02 9:08 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Mark Levin | 5/7/02 10:12 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Rick Blaine | 5/7/02 11:48 p.m. | |
Wow. | B-Sharp | 5/8/02 6:43 p.m. | |
Re: Wow. | Mark Levin | 5/8/02 8:14 p.m. | |
Re: Wow. | Rick Blaine | 5/8/02 8:40 p.m. | |
Re: Wow. | Boomer | 5/8/02 9:19 p.m. | |
Re: Wow. | Rick Blaine | 5/8/02 8:35 p.m. | |
Re: Wow. | B-Sharp | 5/10/02 12:23 a.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Tru7h | 5/7/02 8:15 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Rick Blaine | 5/7/02 9:27 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Tru7h | 5/8/02 3:10 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Mark Levin | 5/8/02 4:13 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | zudo | 5/8/02 4:31 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Mark Levin | 5/8/02 4:41 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Rick Blaine | 5/8/02 4:59 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Rick Blaine | 5/8/02 4:43 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Tru7h | 5/8/02 8:03 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Rick Blaine | 5/8/02 8:46 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Tru7h | 5/9/02 3:22 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Rick Blaine | 5/9/02 3:54 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Tru7h | 5/9/02 6:48 p.m. | |
the most obvious possibility is often right one *NM* | Tru7h | 5/7/02 8:21 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Andreas R | 5/8/02 8:02 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight | Tru7h | 5/8/02 8:05 p.m. | |
Re: Honorable fight [BASH BASH BASH] :D | Ernie | 5/11/02 12:46 p.m. | |
Re: The Halo versus Marathon case. | zudo | 5/7/02 10:10 a.m. | |
Re: The Halo versus Marathon case. | Claude Errera | 5/7/02 11:00 a.m. | |
Re: The Halo versus Marathon case. | zudo | 5/7/02 2:43 p.m. | |
Conjecture: The Marathon Multiverse. | Rick Blaine | 5/7/02 7:58 p.m. | |
Re: Conjecture: The Marathon Multiverse. | Mark Levin | 5/7/02 8:07 p.m. | |
well said! *NM* | Tru7h | 5/7/02 8:19 p.m. | |
Re: Conjecture: The Marathon Multiverse. | Rick Blaine | 5/7/02 9:40 p.m. | |
Re: Conjecture: The Marathon Multiverse. | zudo | 5/8/02 1:35 a.m. | |
Re: Conjecture: The Marathon Multiverse. | Mark Levin | 5/8/02 10:55 a.m. | |
Re: Conjecture: The Marathon Multiverse. | Rick Blaine | 5/8/02 12:17 p.m. | |
Re: Conjecture: The Marathon Multiverse. | zudo | 5/9/02 2:21 p.m. | |
Truth and conjecture | Dan Johnson | 5/10/02 12:06 a.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | :: Beer Can :: | 5/10/02 2:16 a.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | Hamish Sinclair | 5/10/02 11:08 a.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | Dan Johnson | 5/11/02 9:13 a.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | zudo | 5/11/02 11:45 a.m. | |
Art and stasis | Dan Johnson | 5/11/02 11:18 p.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | Mark Levin | 5/11/02 12:27 p.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | :: Beer Can :: | 5/11/02 9:04 p.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | :: Beer Can :: | 5/11/02 12:41 p.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | zudo | 5/11/02 1:57 p.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | Rick Blaine | 5/11/02 3:06 p.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | :: Beer Can :: | 5/11/02 8:52 p.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | :: Beer Can :: | 5/11/02 8:49 p.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | zudo | 5/12/02 3:02 a.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | Rick Blaine | 5/12/02 1:11 p.m. | |
Re: Truth and conjecture | :: Beer Can :: | 5/12/02 1:31 p.m. | |
Re: Conjecture: The Marathon Multiverse. | Rick Blaine | 5/8/02 12:01 p.m. | |
Re: Conjecture: The Marathon Multiverse. | zudo | 5/8/02 1:39 a.m. | |
Re: halo=marathon universe? | Rick Blaine | 5/6/02 5:20 p.m. | |
Re: halo=marathon universe? | Tru7h | 5/6/02 6:48 p.m. | |
The True story Between Marathon and Halo | Alfred Mordeir | 5/3/02 9:48 a.m. | |
Re: The True story Between Marathon and Halo | archon | 5/3/02 4:39 p.m. | |
Re: The True story Between Marathon and Halo | kiro69 | 5/7/02 9:03 a.m. |
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