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Before you get your panties in a bunch...(long)
Posted By: TychoDate: 3/27/02 9:10 p.m.

In Response To: The Ar'kives: Does Anybody Care? (REB)

The reason FileBall has to either close down, or ask for money, is because a lot of people that are either in or out of this community take free things for granted.

Bungie.org and all it's affiliates exist as they do out of the imense goodness of the maintainers and their ability to foot all the costs out of their own pockets. I suspect the vast majority of people here don't even have a realistic grasp on how much money this sort of things costs both monetarily and creatively. FileBall (and it's previous incarnations) has been footing the bill out of their pocket for longer than 3 years. It has been an excellent free service, functional and useful, yet when they kindly and inobtrusively asked for donations nobody even ASKED how they could donate. It has gotten to the point where the maintainer of FileBall is in debt so that FileBall is up...this is simply unacceptable for any reasonable person out there. I think feeding oneself and one's family is quite more important.

The amount that's being charged is incredibly low. The amount being charged is even questionable if it will cover the costs of hosting the site (approx $250/month). IF any one of you cowboys have some sort of clever way of footing the bill, or feel inclined to send in money to keep it alive..please do..but one person can't keep giving money for free for years and at the end of it all get such compliments as "pay porn site"..that's just absurd, and frankly makes me pretty ashamed to see it in this community of otherwise very civil and well-minded people.

Before you start ranting (unlike some already have), sit back and think about the costs involved in running a site such as FileBall and even Bungie.org. Think about the incredible and amazing efforts that the maintainers of these sites are making to bring YOU these services out of their own spare time and the goodness of their heart. Be realistic and notice that somehow the bills need to get paid. FM has been doing things for this community for a very long time (Evil anyone?) and certainly has no intention of raking in the dough from you. Have you seen banner ads and other such money making schemes on ANY of these websites ever? I didn't think so...think before you post..look at the spare change in your pocket and see if you can do your bit to keep this community going...and that's not by whining just because you can't get any more free stuff...

Tycho out.

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The Ar'kives: Does Anybody Care?REB 3/27/02 6:06 p.m.
     Re: The Ar'kives: Does Anybody Care?Rincewind MoG 3/27/02 6:50 p.m.
           Re: The Ar'kives: Does Anybody Care?Hamish Sinclair 3/28/02 12:14 a.m.
                 Re: The Ar'kives: Does Anybody Care?D-M.A. 3/28/02 12:44 a.m.
                       and he's in the corny-stage :) NTD-M.A. 3/28/02 12:48 a.m.
           Re: The Ar'kives: Does Anybody Care?Ernie 3/30/02 3:16 p.m.
     Re: The Ar'kives: Does Anybody Care?Tophet 3/27/02 8:04 p.m.
     Before you get your panties in a bunch...(long)Tycho 3/27/02 9:10 p.m.
           Re: Before you get your panties in a bunch...(longDjof 3/27/02 10:20 p.m.
                 Re: Before you get your panties in a bunch...(longTycho 3/27/02 10:47 p.m.
                       Re: Before you get your panties in a bunch...(longDjof@School 3/28/02 8:35 a.m.
                             Re: Before you get your panties in a bunch...(longTycho 3/28/02 10:11 a.m.
                                   Re: Before you get your panties in a bunch...(longDjof@School 3/28/02 11:36 a.m.
                                         Re: Before you get your panties in a bunch...(longTycho 3/28/02 11:54 a.m.
                                               Re: Before you get your panties in a bunch...(longClaude Errera 3/29/02 5:56 a.m.
                                                     Re: Before you get your panties in a bunch...(longDjof 3/29/02 12:14 p.m.
           what?M-Class 3/28/02 2:15 p.m.
           Re: Before you get your panties in a bunch...(longREB 3/29/02 12:10 a.m.
                 Re: Before you get your panties in a bunch...(longD-M.A. 3/29/02 1:32 a.m.
                       could someone send me money, I need more glue! *NM*D-M.A. 3/29/02 1:35 a.m.
     Clearing the air...Claude Errera 3/28/02 6:17 a.m.
           Re: Clearing the air...Tycho 3/28/02 10:09 a.m.
                 Re: Clearing the air...Simon dupuis 3/28/02 11:24 a.m.
                 Re: Clearing the air...Claude Errera 3/28/02 11:30 a.m.
           Very well put ... but ...Jester 3/28/02 7:14 p.m.
                 durr ... "obligated" ... not "obliged". *NM*Jester 3/28/02 8:28 p.m.
                       "obliged" is right -- "obligated" is a corruption *NM*[zudo] 3/29/02 10:41 a.m.
                             http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=obligated (NT)Mark Levin 3/29/02 11:23 a.m.
                                   Nonetheless, obligated is a corruption of obligedzudo 3/30/02 5:16 a.m.
                 Re: Very well put ... but ...Tycho 3/28/02 9:43 p.m.
                       Re: Very well put ... but ...Jester 3/29/02 12:26 a.m.
                             Re: Very well put ... but ...Mark Levin 3/29/02 11:26 a.m.
                                   Very well put! *NM*Vid Boi 3/29/02 11:31 a.m.
                                   Re: Very well put ... but ...Jester 3/29/02 2:50 p.m.
                       Re: Very well put ... but ...Claude Errera 3/29/02 6:13 a.m.
           Re: Clearing the air...Tophet 3/28/02 9:17 p.m.
     Re: The Ar'kives: Does Anybody Care?Andrew Nagy 3/29/02 7:25 p.m.
           Re: The Ar'kives: Does Anybody Care?REB 3/29/02 7:46 p.m.



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