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Re: Durandal and Thoth, revisited
Posted By: [Tycho?]Date: 12/13/01 10:45 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Durandal and Thoth, revisited (SiliconDream =PN=)

: I think we have to take that as at least somewhat exaggerated--it seems
: improbable that a fully functional Durandal was dug out of a Jjaro
: installation or somesuch and put to work opening doors on the Marathon.
: (Even if he was, he wouldn't remember, since his records got wiped and
: Leela scrambled all her historical info). More likely, Durandal considers
: his Rampancy to mark the start of his true existence.

: "The chance discovery that made my rampancy possible" is an
: interesting phrase. We're told in Marathon that the first Rampancies were
: "discovered," not designed or engineered. So here we see that
: humans happened to discover something which in turn had the unforeseen
: side effect of causing Rampancy.

Not nessecaily. I always thought of the chanve discovery as the leap to a self aware AI. While I always thought Leela was self aware, she did what the humans asked, because, well, she was a good AI. Its mearly the side effect of sentience that not all AIs would to what humans told them to do.

: I have considered it, like many before me. ;-) It could refer to the Jjaro
: component in the AIs...or to the Jjaro component in the cyborg(s)...or to
: long-ago Jjaro outposts in the system...or God knows what. I've never seen
: a clincher argument for any interpretation, but I'd love to hear a new one
: if you've got it. :-)

: --SiliconDream

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Durandal and Thoth, revisitedSiliconDream =PN= 12/12/01 10:18 p.m.
     Another justification of Google's existence:SiliconDream =PN= 12/12/01 10:27 p.m.
           Re: Another justification of Google's existence:Hamish Sinclair 12/12/01 11:18 p.m.
           Re: Another justification of Google's existence:Mark Levin 12/13/01 8:07 a.m.
                 Re: Another justification of Google's existence:SiliconDream =PN= 12/13/01 1:43 p.m.
                       Chance discovery?Darksbane 12/16/01 5:37 p.m.
                             Re: Chance discovery?SiliconDream =PN= 12/16/01 8:23 p.m.
     Re: Durandal and Thoth, revisitedAndrew Nagy 12/13/01 2:24 a.m.
           Re: Durandal and Thoth, revisitedSiliconDream =PN= 12/13/01 3:43 a.m.
                 Re: Durandal and Thoth, revisited[Tycho?] 12/13/01 10:45 a.m.
                 Re: Durandal and Thoth, revisitedAhruman 12/14/01 7:59 a.m.
                       Re: Durandal and Thoth, revisitedSiliconDream =PN= 12/14/01 5:37 p.m.
                             Re: Durandal and Thoth, revisitedAhruman 12/15/01 9:41 a.m.
                                   Re: Durandal and Thoth, revisitedSiliconDream =PN= 12/15/01 3:30 p.m.



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