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	Holy necropost, batman!
	Posted By: VikingBoyBilly	Date: 4/8/25 7:52 a.m.
	In Response To: Re: Marathon on the Doom engine (VonZwietracht) : I dunno, I do things in Doom (both GZDoom gameplay mods and a few maps) quite : a bit, and have been playing with bringing over marathon assets to doom : recently, but I find it to be a hassle. : If I want to make something that feels like marathon, aleph one is limited, : but it's hyper-efficient at being marathon. : Doom on the other hand, is not. I have to fight the natural tendencies of the : engine to make it like marathon. : Want to use marathon's textures? Gotta 2x scale them on every linedef and use : UDMF, because marathon originally rendered at 640x480, while doom rendered : at 320x200, so textures are basically 2x scale. : Want marathon movement? I need to do some complicated stuff in DECORATE to : make the player slower and mess with his inertia. : Want terminals? I need to jerry rig strife's dialogue system, and won't : really be able to ever get the same visual look as a real marathon : terminal. : Want marathon's mission types? You need to write custom ACS to implement any : single one of them, since doom basically has switch exit, walk exit, : secret exit and death exit. Not the least to mention the ability to do : branching paths with marathon's different terminal states. GZDoom can do : Hexen's cool hub exits, but this still isn't quite what marathon gives. : Like I can definitely make some cooler gameplay mods pretty simply in GZDoom, : but if I wanted to replicate marathon's specific gameplay loop and feel, : it would be a lot easier to just do it in aleph one. It's only once I'd : get into complicated "physics" alterations that I'd want to : scuttle back to doom, since I don't think marathon permits certain levels : of control I'd like over things like weapons and enemies. I dunno if this : is just me not knowing how far marathon physics can be stretched, though. : I've only been relearning the engine for a week or so, and some of the : cool modifications in eternal or apotheosis X and similar TCs look like : they could implicate the engine into being something that's quite capable. The way I found out Marathon became freeware and the aleph one engine existed way back in the day was from a zdoom mod trying to emulate marathon terminals, and couldn't help but go looking if marathon was still obtainable in THE FAR FUTURE OF 2007 (man I'm feeling old)

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	Marathon on the Doom engine	Lion O Cyborg	4/20/22 12:44 p.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	anonymousthonner	4/21/22 5:38 a.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	Lion O Cyborg	4/21/22 2:00 p.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	anonymousthonner	4/22/22 3:16 p.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	Lion O Cyborg	4/23/22 5:42 a.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	VonZwietracht	4/7/25 7:04 p.m.
	Holy necropost, batman!	VikingBoyBilly	4/8/25 7:52 a.m.
	Re: Holy necropost, batman!	VonZwietracht	4/8/25 9:47 a.m.
	Re: Holy necropost, batman!	VikingBoyBilly	4/8/25 3:56 p.m.
	Re: Holy necropost, batman!	Lion O Cyborg	4/13/25 10:50 a.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	President People	4/8/25 4:32 p.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	VonZwietracht	4/9/25 7:02 a.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	VikingBoyBilly	4/9/25 10:00 a.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	VonZwietracht	4/9/25 4:36 p.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	VikingBoyBilly	4/9/25 9:58 a.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	Lion O Cyborg	4/13/25 10:45 a.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	VonZwietracht	4/14/25 5:49 a.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	Lion O Cyborg	4/14/25 1:12 p.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	VonZwietracht	4/14/25 2:43 p.m.
	Re: Marathon on the Doom engine	Lion O Cyborg	4/22/25 9:33 a.m.

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