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Re: Beta test: BOB-B-Q
Posted By: AntarcticoDate: 8/8/13 12:59 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Beta test: BOB-B-Q (Dr. John Sumner)

: The minimum ledge delta for the Major Hunter in the original Marathon is
: listed as -31. The corresponding value in M2 is -1024 which I assume is
: one world unit. Since the ledge is exactly that height, I suppose that is
: why it could jump out. But what would -31 mean for M1? That doesn't sound
: very large. Do the Hunters in M1 not jump off ledges often? (or ever?)

Here's the thing though -- the physics model included with the Marathon Aleph One beta appears to be the original Marathon physics model, file format and all. You can (and I just did), move the Physics.phys file over to your mac, open it with ResEdit, add a resource fork, change the Type and Creator codes to those for Marathon (phys and 26.2), and then drag and drop the altered file on to your copy of the Marathon Physics Model Editor, and it opens right up. For the Major Hunter, the minimum ledge delta is -31 and the maximum ledge delta is 0.3330, which is as you pointed out, exactly what it should be.

: In the original Marathon, there is a glue poly at the edge of the opening on
: the walkway side. On the floor side, there is a super glue poly at the
: edge of the opening.

Given this, and the 0.3330 maximum ledge delta, then I don't know why I was able to get him to jump down after me unless it is some quirk caused by the corridor's 5D space and/or the narrowness of the opening threshold, or alternately, some deeply obscure bug with Aleph One. I don't know brother, it is a mystery. :)

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