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Re: Copyright Stuff

Posted By: Claude Errera Date: 9/4/06 12:49 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Copyright Stuff (Forrest of B.org)

: Yes they still own it, and they still own the copyright on the Marathon 2
: engine code. The thing that's special in both cases is that they have
: specifically permitted (with different licences obviously) the use of
: their copyrighted "intellectual properties" (I hate that term)
: for use in a very unrestricted manner.
: The license specifying how we can use the M2 source code is the GPL. I'd be
: curious to see whatever official letter from Bungie states that we can
: distribute the file formats and game content and everything else on
: Trilogy Release. Maybe I'll ask Claude to comment here...
There actually wasn't an 'official letter'.
The original release of the Trilogy Box Set files was done after a conversation with SketchFactor; we agreed that as long as there was text somewhere obvious stating that Bungie still held the copyright, and that you couldn't, for example, SELL anything that used the files, we'd be fine. (That text is in the FAQ.)
MS Legal went nuts the day it opened, and we almost pulled it down. Sketch explained to them that pulling it down made far less sense than putting up an official EULA, since the files were already all over the net - and he explained that the Marathon 2 source code was open-source BEFORE the MS buyout.
Legal said 'hold tight - we'll get back to you.'
Sketch said 'just leave the page up until they do.'
That was mid-January, 2005. To date, Legal hasn't gotten around to solidifying their position.
Bungie HAS denied permission to include the Trilogy files on cover discs of magazines, because of the 'making money' bit.
So - there's no official EULA at this point - but the hardest and fastest part of the agreement is 'Bungie still owns the copyrights, and you can't sell anything you make using the files, but outside of that, they're free.'
With respect to this particular use - I think you're fine, as long as it says somewhere that Marathon is copyright Bungie. (last frame of the movie, whatever.)

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Re: Copyright Stuff thermoplyae 9/3/06 11:37 p.m.

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Re: Copyright Stuff Claude Errera 9/4/06 12:49 a.m.

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: There actually wasn't an 'official letter'. : The original release of the Trilogy Box Set files was done after a : conversation with SketchFactor; we agreed that as long as there was text : somewhere obvious stating that Bungie still held the copyright, and that : you couldn't, for example, SELL anything that used the files, we'd be : fine. (That text is in the FAQ.) : MS Legal went nuts the day it opened, and we almost pulled it down. Sketch : explained to them that pulling it down made far less sense than putting up : an official EULA, since the files were already all over the net - and he : explained that the Marathon 2 source code was open-source BEFORE the MS : buyout. : Legal said 'hold tight - we'll get back to you.' : Sketch said 'just leave the page up until they do.' : That was mid-January, 2005. To date, Legal hasn't gotten around to : solidifying their position. : Bungie HAS denied permission to include the Trilogy files on cover discs of : magazines, because of the 'making money' bit. : So - there's no official EULA at this point - but the hardest and fastest : part of the agreement is 'Bungie still owns the copyrights, and you can't : sell anything you make using the files, but outside of that, they're : free.' : With respect to this particular use - I think you're fine, as long as it says : somewhere that Marathon is copyright Bungie. (last frame of the movie, : whatever.)

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Copyright Stuff	xyfbzi	9/1/06 4:37 p.m.
Re: Copyright Stuff	Blake37	9/3/06 5:34 p.m.
Re: Copyright Stuff	thermoplyae	9/3/06 11:37 p.m.
Re: Copyright Stuff	Forrest of B.org	9/3/06 11:44 p.m.
Re: Copyright Stuff	Claude Errera	9/4/06 12:49 a.m.
Re: Copyright Stuff	xyfbzi	9/4/06 5:14 a.m.
Re: Copyright Stuff	Vid Boi	9/4/06 12:33 a.m.



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