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Re: Worst Level EVER!
Posted By: RyokoTKDate: 2/17/05 12:07 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Worst Level EVER! (Steve Levinson)

: ACME is high on everyone's list of "what were they thinking"
: levels, but it is fun to play. Interesting that Bungie included that one
: in the demo. Acme is a challenge and I appreciate it now more than then as
: it definitely helped me to build new skills. There are tricks to beating
: it and it only takes a few minutes.

It's still one of my least favorites. It's hard, it's crowded, it's a vacuum (argh!) and the fact that if you don't find any secrets, you'll only have the Pistols, I think (my memory fails). It's quite easy to miss the Shotgun, Plasma Pistol, and SMG if you aren't paying attention, and I've burned my alien gun long ago by this point.

: It would be a great level if it weren't for that.

True. Post Naval Trauma would be a lot better if it wasn't vacuum.

: Not to mention that if you can't afford to take any hits if you want to take
: the secret exit.

If you're pro like me, you won't take any hits. :P

: You need to make better use of map mode. Also, there is and O2 recharger
: available - if you don't have enough O2 to find it, with the O2 power-ups
: already provided, you're pretty pathetic.

Yeah, Kill Your Television is confusing, but it's not very hard.

: I'm not a fan of rebellion levels myself. I hate the fact that those cyborgs
: are virtually invincible, so you have to dodge them rather than kill them.
: Even worse for me is the infinitely regenerating simulcrums - they're more
: than annoying.

Another one falls to the spelling of "simulacrum." I'm inclined to agree, though. By Committee stinks, and late-game rebellion levels like this one and Big House piss me off. All that work for naught! It's okay if you get your guns back right away like in Rubicon or EVIL, but otherwise, bleah.

: Thank God they fixed the puzzle in M1A1 - otherwise it's a pretty cool level.

No kidding. NOBODY liked that puzzle.

: Ah, a non-bungie level. I can think of a lot worse levels if we look at all
: the 3rd party scenarios. No doubt that All Dressed Up is difficult and the
: ammo provided is pretty pathetic, but once you reach that first PB, it's
: not so bad. In my mind this level redeems itself by having so many
: secrets. I love finding secrets, and I found all but one of them without
: any help. The secrets also help to mitigate the lack of ammo.

All Dressed Up is one of my favorite levels. It's LONG, it makes good use of every single polygon, it has a slew of different environments, and it's a good challenge. Sure, knowing where all the ammo is helps a lot, as does using pistols on the Devilins if possible. All Dressed Up is a level I tend to emulate sometimes when I make my maps. Except with more ammo.

: Ooo - where are you gettin stuck? I managed to beat this one on TC long
: before I finally beat Schmackle - a much more difficult level IMO. There
: is a pattern buffer right near the beginning that makes it so much easier
: than Schmackle and once you get below, there is a 2X shield recharger,
: although it's a bit hidden. There's also a secret path that allows you to
: bypass some of the level, and it provides a lot of ammo along with 3X and
: invinsibility power-ups. If you need some help, I'll walk you through it.

Shmackle and Life's End are my two of my most favorite levels in EVIL. Shmackle presents a very good challenge, especially for the end of the game, and really tests the mettle of the average player, and the final escape in Life's End was pretty fun too.

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I don't remember posting in this topic before, but if I had to post my least favorite level, it would either be Code 42 (for all scenarios) or Post Naval Trauma for a Trilogy map. Code 42... augh! Remember this map, aspiring map-makers, for Code 42 is an excellent example of how to NOT make a map.

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                       Do what now? *NM*Andrew Nagy 9/20/06 3:20 p.m.
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           sycophantic OMG BUN GUY MB!!!!! *NM*Andrew Nagy 2/11/04 2:22 p.m.
                 Re: sycophantic OMG BUN GUY MB!!!!!Evil Otto 2/12/04 4:14 p.m.
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     Re: Worst Level EVER!HamburgerBoy 2/16/05 7:58 p.m.
           Re: Worst Level EVER!Steve Levinson 2/17/05 8:22 a.m.
                 Re: Worst Level EVER!RyokoTK 2/17/05 12:07 p.m.
                 Re: Worst Level EVER!HamburgerBoy 2/17/05 3:54 p.m.
                       Re: Worst Level EVER!Steve Levinson 2/17/05 4:55 p.m.
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                 Re: Worst Level EVER!thermoplyae 2/18/05 9:13 a.m.
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                                               that second one would be me. *NM*tcm 2/19/05 3:16 p.m.

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