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Re: Worst Level EVAR!

Posted By: Yossarian Date: 2/8/04 9:37 a.m.
In Response To: Worst Level EVER! (Krazy)

: What is the single worst level you have ever played? Give an explenation of
: the lvl and if possible a link to download it. I'll post mine later.
Well, I don't know if this is the "worst" level I've ever played, but it is certainly the one I like the least: Pfhor Your Eyes Only.
This level by itself isn't bad, but take it and add its subsequent clones and it becomes less and less magical every time. Of course you have the original, and the Rubicon team did it with "Not *this* again" and I could have swore I've played at least another knock-off of it but when and where escapes me.
I agree with Steve about how difficult it is to identify the "worst" level. I mean, all of the well-known levels that are in the original scenarios or major 3P-TC's are *good* levels, otherwise they wouldn't have been included. Sure, the guys doing volunteers have pointed out some levels that could have used revision or tweaking or even a complete overhaul, but I don't think they've come across a level that was downright horrible in every aspect (correct me if I'm wrong), or at least, so bad to be on their list of "worst levels". Also, there are some levels that exist merely for story-telling purposes, but are we really going to fault "The Big House" for its size or the Electric Sheeps for their redundancy?
On the other hand, the truly crappy, god-awful levels never gain wide exposure or playing-time and are typically left to rot. Even if we could name some of these, would anyone recognize or remember them without haveing to DL them (again)?
This is why I like Marathon's levels: there are so many aspects about them. While this is true with a lot of other games, Marathon still seems different to me. It comes down not only to the tools but the people who use them and the sytles they employ. I haven't spent much time in other gaming communities, but with Marathon we know the mapmakers and their work, and its fun to see what new things they've come up with and how their styles have eveolved. Some design for artisitic value; others prefer a more practical, engineered level; and still there are those who design for optimized gameplay. The really talented ones do all three and more.
Again, I think we have a really unique atmosphere here, and this is all just one of the many aspects that make the Marathon experience great and keep it going...
Yossarian

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Worst Level EVER! Krazy 2/8/04 12:00 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Ojo 2/8/04 2:55 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Ojo 2/8/04 2:57 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/8/04 6:30 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Ojo 2/8/04 9:31 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Me!! 2/8/04 8:48 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! the Battle Cat 2/9/04 6:15 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Dr. John Sumner 2/9/04 7:30 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! the Battle Cat 2/10/04 5:56 a.m.

The One And Only... thermoplyae 2/8/04 5:40 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/8/04 6:17 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVAR! Yossarian 2/8/04 9:37 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Pedrof 2/8/04 9:40 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/8/04 10:28 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Ben A. Potter 2/8/04 4:21 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Dr. John Sumner 2/9/04 3:42 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/9/04 4:40 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Andrew Nagy 2/12/05 9:44 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! C Lund 2/9/04 12:48 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/9/04 4:46 a.m.

OMG MINES MB! Andrew "Oosha" Nagy 2/8/04 4:34 p.m.

Re: OMG MINES MB! Andrew Nagy 11/4/05 5:40 p.m.

Re: OMG MINES MB! *NM* ukimalefu 11/4/05 7:07 p.m.

Do what now? *NM* Andrew Nagy 9/20/06 3:20 p.m.

Re: Do what now? Forrest of B.org 9/20/06 3:50 p.m.

Re: Do what now? Andrew Nagy 9/20/06 4:05 p.m.

Re: OMG MINES MB! (link fix) Andrew Nagy 3/21/08 6:03 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Little Kago 2/8/04 6:07 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/8/04 6:41 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Todd 2/8/04 9:38 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/10/04 4:50 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! the Battle Cat 2/9/04 5:57 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Andrew Nagy 2/10/04 2:22 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Dr. John Sumner 2/9/04 7:53 a.m.

Worst...but a favorite! Evil Otto 2/10/04 10:25 a.m.

Re: Worst...but a favorite! Adam Ashwell 2/10/04 12:07 p.m.

Re: Worst...but a favorite! the Battle Cat 2/11/04 6:36 a.m.

sycophantic OMG BUN GUY MB!!!!! *NM* Andrew Nagy 2/11/04 2:22 p.m.

Re: sycophantic OMG BUN GUY MB!!!!! Evil Otto 2/12/04 4:14 p.m.

Re: sycophantic OMG BUN GUY MB!!!!! mnemesis 2/16/04 11:47 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! HamburgerBoy 2/16/05 7:58 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/17/05 8:22 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! RyokoTK 2/17/05 12:07 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! HamburgerBoy 2/17/05 3:54 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/17/05 4:55 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Cheerful 2/17/05 8:42 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Forrest of B.org 2/17/05 9:13 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! goran 2/18/05 2:08 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/18/05 3:12 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/18/05 3:39 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! thermoplyae 2/18/05 9:13 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/18/05 9:57 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! thermoplyae 2/18/05 12:41 p.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! Steve Levinson 2/19/05 4:58 a.m.

Re: Worst Level EVER! thermoplyae 2/19/05 1:12 p.m.

that second one would be me. *NM* tcm 2/19/05 3:16 p.m.

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: Well, I don't know if this is the "worst" level I've ever played, : but it is certainly the one I like the least: Pfhor Your Eyes Only. : This level by itself isn't bad, but take it and add its subsequent clones and : it becomes less and less magical every time. Of course you have the : original, and the Rubicon team did it with "Not *this* again" : and I could have swore I've played at least another knock-off of it but : when and where escapes me. : I agree with Steve about how difficult it is to identify the : "worst" level. I mean, all of the well-known levels that are in : the original scenarios or major 3P-TC's are *good* levels, otherwise they : wouldn't have been included. Sure, the guys doing volunteers have pointed : out some levels that could have used revision or tweaking or even a : complete overhaul, but I don't think they've come across a level that was : downright horrible in every aspect (correct me if I'm wrong), or at least, : so bad to be on their list of "worst levels". Also, there are : some levels that exist merely for story-telling purposes, but are we : really going to fault "The Big House" for its size or the : Electric Sheeps for their redundancy? : On the other hand, the truly crappy, god-awful levels never gain wide : exposure or playing-time and are typically left to rot. Even if we could : name some of these, would anyone recognize or remember them without : haveing to DL them (again)? : This is why I like Marathon's levels: there are so many aspects about them. : While this is true with a lot of other games, Marathon still seems : different to me. It comes down not only to the tools but the people who : use them and the sytles they employ. I haven't spent much time in other : gaming communities, but with Marathon we know the mapmakers and their : work, and its fun to see what new things they've come up with and how : their styles have eveolved. Some design for artisitic value; others prefer : a more practical, engineered level; and still there are those who design : for optimized gameplay. The really talented ones do all three and more. : Again, I think we have a really unique atmosphere here, and this is all just : one of the many aspects that make the Marathon experience great and keep : it going... : Yossarian

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Worst Level EVER!	Krazy	2/8/04 12:00 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Ojo	2/8/04 2:55 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Ojo	2/8/04 2:57 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/8/04 6:30 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Ojo	2/8/04 9:31 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Me!!	2/8/04 8:48 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	the Battle Cat	2/9/04 6:15 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Dr. John Sumner	2/9/04 7:30 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	the Battle Cat	2/10/04 5:56 a.m.
The One And Only...	thermoplyae	2/8/04 5:40 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/8/04 6:17 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVAR!	Yossarian	2/8/04 9:37 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Pedrof	2/8/04 9:40 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/8/04 10:28 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Ben A. Potter	2/8/04 4:21 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Dr. John Sumner	2/9/04 3:42 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/9/04 4:40 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Andrew Nagy	2/12/05 9:44 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	C Lund	2/9/04 12:48 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/9/04 4:46 a.m.
OMG MINES MB!	Andrew "Oosha" Nagy	2/8/04 4:34 p.m.
Re: OMG MINES MB!	Andrew Nagy	11/4/05 5:40 p.m.
Re: OMG MINES MB! NM	ukimalefu	11/4/05 7:07 p.m.
Do what now? NM	Andrew Nagy	9/20/06 3:20 p.m.
Re: Do what now?	Forrest of B.org	9/20/06 3:50 p.m.
Re: Do what now?	Andrew Nagy	9/20/06 4:05 p.m.
Re: OMG MINES MB! (link fix)	Andrew Nagy	3/21/08 6:03 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Little Kago	2/8/04 6:07 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/8/04 6:41 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Todd	2/8/04 9:38 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/10/04 4:50 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	the Battle Cat	2/9/04 5:57 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Andrew Nagy	2/10/04 2:22 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Dr. John Sumner	2/9/04 7:53 a.m.
Worst...but a favorite!	Evil Otto	2/10/04 10:25 a.m.
Re: Worst...but a favorite!	Adam Ashwell	2/10/04 12:07 p.m.
Re: Worst...but a favorite!	the Battle Cat	2/11/04 6:36 a.m.
sycophantic OMG BUN GUY MB!!!!! NM	Andrew Nagy	2/11/04 2:22 p.m.
Re: sycophantic OMG BUN GUY MB!!!!!	Evil Otto	2/12/04 4:14 p.m.
Re: sycophantic OMG BUN GUY MB!!!!!	mnemesis	2/16/04 11:47 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	HamburgerBoy	2/16/05 7:58 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/17/05 8:22 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	RyokoTK	2/17/05 12:07 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	HamburgerBoy	2/17/05 3:54 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/17/05 4:55 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Cheerful	2/17/05 8:42 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Forrest of B.org	2/17/05 9:13 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	goran	2/18/05 2:08 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/18/05 3:12 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/18/05 3:39 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	thermoplyae	2/18/05 9:13 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/18/05 9:57 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	thermoplyae	2/18/05 12:41 p.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	Steve Levinson	2/19/05 4:58 a.m.
Re: Worst Level EVER!	thermoplyae	2/19/05 1:12 p.m.
that second one would be me. NM	tcm	2/19/05 3:16 p.m.



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	Message: : Well, I don't know if this is the "worst" level I've ever played, : but it is certainly the one I like the least: Pfhor Your Eyes Only. : This level by itself isn't bad, but take it and add its subsequent clones and : it becomes less and less magical every time. Of course you have the : original, and the Rubicon team did it with "Not this again" : and I could have swore I've played at least another knock-off of it but : when and where escapes me. : I agree with Steve about how difficult it is to identify the : "worst" level. I mean, all of the well-known levels that are in : the original scenarios or major 3P-TC's are good levels, otherwise they : wouldn't have been included. Sure, the guys doing volunteers have pointed : out some levels that could have used revision or tweaking or even a : complete overhaul, but I don't think they've come across a level that was : downright horrible in every aspect (correct me if I'm wrong), or at least, : so bad to be on their list of "worst levels". Also, there are : some levels that exist merely for story-telling purposes, but are we : really going to fault "The Big House" for its size or the : Electric Sheeps for their redundancy? : On the other hand, the truly crappy, god-awful levels never gain wide : exposure or playing-time and are typically left to rot. Even if we could : name some of these, would anyone recognize or remember them without : haveing to DL them (again)? : This is why I like Marathon's levels: there are so many aspects about them. : While this is true with a lot of other games, Marathon still seems : different to me. It comes down not only to the tools but the people who : use them and the sytles they employ. I haven't spent much time in other : gaming communities, but with Marathon we know the mapmakers and their : work, and its fun to see what new things they've come up with and how : their styles have eveolved. Some design for artisitic value; others prefer : a more practical, engineered level; and still there are those who design : for optimized gameplay. The really talented ones do all three and more. : Again, I think we have a really unique atmosphere here, and this is all just : one of the many aspects that make the Marathon experience great and keep : it going... : Yossarian
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