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Re: Infinity: the Story: Chapt 4
Posted By: Forrest of B.orgDate: 12/27/20 9:14 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Infinity: the Story: Chapt 4 (Durandal_1707)

: That's really similar to my personal theory, except that mine's the other way
: around; Durandal and the other human AIs are offshoots of Yrro, Thoth is
: an offshoot of Pthia. The Yrro terminal about the loss of Pthia in Aye Mak
: Sicur mentions "ancient endless balance, then nothing," and
: balance certainly seems to be what Thoth provides.

: My headcanon is that Traxus and the other human AIs were developed based on
: fragments of Yrro left behind in the Sol system after dealing with the
: W'rk from Pathways, and whoever built Thoth similarly used the remains of
: Pthia, which would presumably have been left behind somewhere in the
: L'howon system, as a template. The fact that each provides something that
: the other seems to lack (Thoth is balanced but lacks direction, Durandal
: is all ambition but is unbalacned), and that their symbols coincidentally
: form the Jjaro symbol when merged, fits the "destiny" theme
: pretty well. It explains why the first thing Durandal-Thoth says is
: "We are whole again." It also answers the question of
: "where did the Jjaro go " if the Jjaro are actually a very
: small group of AIs that simply left once there work was done in a system.

I kinda like this version better than my own. My first thought was to object that if Thoth is what's left of Pthia, why can we just reactivate them, why wouldn't Yrro have just done that. But it sounds like on your account someone (probably the S'pht'Kr) built Thoth out of the remains of Pthia, and then presumably deactivated them. Though then I immediately wonder why Yrro couldn't have rebuilt Pthia from their remains, instead of just leaving.

This also gave me the thought that perhaps a resolution to the "Yrro/the Jjaro" singular/plural issue is that all of these entities, Yrro, Pthia, maybe the W'rkncacnter as well, were gestalt beings like I hypothesize the S'pht to be, a collection of sapient individuals bound together by some kind of AI overmind into a unified hyper-sapient godlike being. Perhaps, rather than the Dreaming God from PiD being "a W'rkncanter", it was just the same kind of being as the W'rkncacnter, and Yrro, and Pthia: all of them "timeless creatures", veritable gods, all of different sorts.

So "the Jjaro" were perhaps a race, but also a singular being composed of all the individuals in that race, whom the S'pht recognized as "Yrro". And Pthia likewise, a whole race of beings bound together by a singular overmind. Which then makes me wonder, though, what became of the individuals constituting Pthia when "Pthia" (presumably the central mind) was destroyed.

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