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 | Re: Infinity: the Story: Chapt 4 | |
| Posted By: Forrest of B.org | Date: 12/25/20 10:51 p.m. |
| In Response To: Infinity: the Story: Chapt 4 (Philtron) : Discussion: So, this level adds to some more confusion that I believe has
: We get messages in white text on this level and the two preceding levels,
: Are the terminals of white text a different Jjaro entity? Non-diegetic
: Alternatively, if Thoth was activated before this level, then who activated
I always interpreted it as the Bobs having mostly-activated Thoth, enough for him to be active and sending messages to the player-character, which Thoth then uses to guide the character to merge Durandal's pattern into himself, since they were apparently destined for each other or separated from each other somehow. : There is one terminal here that is dreamlike, white text. I take this as
I always took that terminal to be Yrro himself, since he refers to "my old pthia", which does not seem like something any character but Yrro would say. The bit in this terminal about "two forces in balance, ancient, endless balance, then nothing" always struck me as so similar to the merged Durandal-Thoth (I'm presuming the otherwise unnamed S'pht entity is Thoth even though he's never called so by name, just because "Thoth" was only ever Durandal's nickname for that entity). That was the seed of my old theory that the Jjaro were actually AIs, and my newer hypothesis that perhaps Thoth just is Yrro (because we know pretty much nothing about Thoth or "the S'pht AI" besides what other characters new to Lh'owon tell us: his name is made up by Durandal, who also tells us he's an AI belonging to the S'pht'Kr, but IIRC we never read anything definitive about the origins of Thoth anywhere). Another part of my old "Jjaro were AIs" theory is that the S'pht seem to require some kind of central entity to unify them, not just something with social status but something cybernetically connected to all their individual entities. When we first meet them in M1 it's the Pfhor controller cyborg whom we kill. Durandal seems to take the place of that cyborg for the S'pht on his new ship. In M2 we learn that after Yrro "departed", he appointed eleven S'pht "Elders"/"Royalty" to lead their new 11 clans, who I figure occupied that same kind of role, serving as a central hub for each clan's collective consciousness. (In various S'pht texts those clans seem to be referred to in the singular, like they are individual entities themselves, rather than groups made up of individuals S'pht.) It seems now plausible to me that perhaps originally "Thoth" was the entity in that role for all of the S'pht -- in other words, Yrro -- and after the death of Pthia, he self-deactivated in sorrow, appointing new Elders from among his S'pht to take his place in smaller collectives, like the Pfhor controller cyborg later would do as well. This fits also with DoubleAught describing S'bhuth, himself a S'pht Elder/Royalty, as a "failed Jjaro". If this hypothesis is right and Thoth is Yrro, then in light of Durandal-Thoth describing themselves as being reunited rather than just united for the first time, that would seem to suggest to me that Durandal is, somehow, Pthia. Perhaps the remains of Pthia were the origin of human AI technology like Traxus IV, in whose image Durandal (and possibly the other Marathon AIs) is thought to have been made?
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