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Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bomb
Posted By: VikingBoyBillyDate: 1/1/18 4:38 p.m.

In Response To: Shake Before Using: There is no bomb (Lion O Cyborg)

: Shake Before Using in Marathon 1 is meant to be where we defuse a bomb the
: Pfhor plan to use to destroy the reactors with, but this is a big fat lie:
: there is no bomb.

: First off, when you fail BoB BQ (because the escort levels are unwinnable),
: Leela leaves out a major detail that winning the BoB BQ mission tells you:
: that the Pfhor have a bomb and Leela is sending you to stop it.

: Playing Shake Before Using is when you are meant to defuse it and Leela
: repeats herself in a prerecorded message in FIRE!x5, in a corrupted state.
: However, anyone failing BoB BQ will think this is the first time a bomb is
: brought up but by then it's too late and it's supposed to be sorted as
: later levels do not have a bomb.

: The deal breaker is the fact that the map you are supposed to defuse it on
: doesn't have said bomb either: I thought it was just a normal level set in
: the engine room section when first playing in 2012 as there wasn't
: anything unusual, save for those switches at the end that only control the
: reactor pistons, which you don't even have to flip.

: I don't think the end terminal of FIREx5 counts as a "large cylindrycal
: object" despite being on a pillar surrounded by liquid that could
: cause a blast, otherwise it would be a hexagon or octagon in the engine.

: It's like Bungie put the writing in for that plot element, but forgot to
: actually add a bomb entity to the map, even as level geometry with a
: switch.

: FIREx5's name alongside Shake Before Using and the former's abundance of lava
: can imply you are supposed to be too late and the magma floods from burst
: heating pipes into random pits outside the main canals, except that such
: an event is never explained nor is implied to have happened otherwise.

: Long story short, Bungie set us up the bomb.

I thought you were going to reveal some hidden lore, not tell us non-canon implications by game design oddness. "The bomb" seems to be a dropped plot; we're supposed to be there to disarm it, but it's kinda hard to tell what's going on 'cuz it's a mid-90s game. The egg in No Time Pfhor This is similar: what's that there for? Another dropped plot element that just barely rose above the cutting room floor, maybe. I think this stuff can be traced back to when it was going to have a more non-linear branching story (in the good way like PID, not the weird way like Infinity), and I bet the two "escort levels" (couldn't have picked a more appropriate name for that trash) were going to be the branching points... but time constraints (and the difficulty to get it right) says no.

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Shake Before Using: There is no bombLion O Cyborg 1/1/18 10:38 a.m.
     Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombVikingBoyBilly 1/1/18 4:38 p.m.
           Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombGeneral-RADIX 1/2/18 4:11 a.m.
           Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombLion O Cyborg 1/2/18 12:05 p.m.
                 Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombPerseusSpartacus 1/2/18 1:35 p.m.
                       Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombVikingBoyBilly 1/2/18 3:14 p.m.
                 Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombVikingBoyBilly 1/2/18 3:21 p.m.
                       Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombGeneral-RADIX 1/2/18 3:37 p.m.
                             You and I sure are on the same page... *NM*PerseusSpartacus 1/2/18 4:22 p.m.
                             Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombDurandal_1707 1/2/18 9:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombPerseusSpartacus 1/3/18 6:18 a.m.
                                         Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombMartin 1/3/18 9:56 a.m.
                                               Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombGeneral-RADIX 1/3/18 10:44 a.m.
                                                     Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombDurandal_1707 1/3/18 1:17 p.m.
                                                           Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombDurandal_1707 1/3/18 9:03 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombMartin 1/4/18 12:22 p.m.
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                                         Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombShining Raven 1/3/18 11:16 a.m.
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                                                                 Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombLion O Cyborg 1/4/18 11:48 a.m.
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                                   Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombDurandal_1707 1/3/18 4:34 a.m.
                                         Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombLion O Cyborg 1/3/18 4:37 a.m.
                                               Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombDurandal_1707 1/3/18 1:22 p.m.
                                                     Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombLion O Cyborg 1/4/18 1:15 a.m.
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                             Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombLion O Cyborg 1/3/18 4:35 a.m.
                       Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombPerseusSpartacus 1/2/18 4:20 p.m.
                             Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombVikingBoyBilly 1/3/18 12:34 a.m.
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                                         Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombVikingBoyBilly 1/4/18 6:21 a.m.
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                                                     Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombVikingBoyBilly 1/6/18 2:06 p.m.
                       Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombLion O Cyborg 1/3/18 4:09 a.m.
                             Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombMartin 1/3/18 9:49 a.m.
     Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombMartin 1/2/18 11:25 a.m.
           Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombLion O Cyborg 1/2/18 12:13 p.m.
                 Re: Shake Before Using: There is no bombMartin 1/2/18 2:35 p.m.

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