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Re: Unreal Gold on OSX
Posted By: PerseusSpartacusDate: 12/9/13 6:02 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Unreal Gold on OSX (Narcogen)

: Oh, sure! It's a great example of what it is. I much preferred that to, say,
: Quake Arena. The Assault gametype was a lot of fun.

Oh yes indeed. Mazon Fortress is easily the best of the original Assault maps.

: Unreal's campaign was understated and varied. They didn't cram a lot of epic
: story nonsense at you (although there is a prophecy element) but it always
: felt epic to me.

Ah, yes, 'epic story nonsense' is always a real downer. The original StarCraft had elements of that, but they weren't terribly bothersome. StarCraft II, on the other hand, beats you over the head with it... repeatedly. Halo touches on a bit of that, especially the more recent games. However, the original still reminded you at various points that really you've got a rather myopic perspective on the overall story; there's other things happening, other viewpoints, other events that are just as important. You're still doing something that will potentially save humanity (wipe out the Flood while preventing the Halo rings from being activated), but this isn't the uber-climactic moment in history that StarCraft II presents you with.

One interesting thing to note is that games that fall into the 'epic story nonsense' trap usually are one or even several of the following:

A) Terribly written.
B) Have a really weird plot that makes no sense and/or seems sloppy, like they simultaneously got lazy with the direction and tried too hard to get everything to fit that direction.
C) Are horribly character-oriented to the point that nobody seems to matter except the main cast (I'm sorry, but any possible relationship between Raynor and Kerrigan is not going to be the axis around which the rest of the universe spins).
D) Often are high-budget sequels to games that were made back in the golden age of gaming (Halo and StarCraft being great examples of this).

This is why I like Marathon: it avoids the usual nonsense 'epic' pattern.

Vale,
Perseus

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                                                                                                                 crazyboy a sight more prissy than crazypatrick 12/2/13 1:28 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: crazyboy a sight more prissy than crazycB557 12/2/13 2:40 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Wait, right, there was a Patrick on the Phorums *NM*cB557 12/2/13 2:46 p.m.
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                                               Re: And Now For Something Completely Different.PerseusSpartacus 11/28/13 9:09 a.m.
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                                                     Re: And Now For Something Completely Different.Narcogen 11/29/13 4:03 a.m.
                                                           Re: And Now For Something Completely Different.PerseusSpartacus 11/29/13 10:21 a.m.
                                                                 Re: And Now For Something Completely Different.Narcogen 11/29/13 4:58 p.m.
                                   Re: And Now For Something Completely Different.Narcogen 11/27/13 11:28 p.m.
                             XCOM XCOM XCOMcB557 11/27/13 3:46 p.m.
                                   Re: XCOM XCOM XCOMNarcogen 11/27/13 11:41 p.m.
                                         Re: XCOM XCOM XCOMcB557 11/28/13 2:42 a.m.
                                               Re: XCOM XCOM XCOMNarcogen 11/29/13 4:05 a.m.
                                                     Re: XCOM XCOM XCOMcB557 11/29/13 6:13 a.m.
                                                           Single player onlyNarcogen 12/4/13 11:42 p.m.
                                               Re: XCOM XCOM XCOMNarcogen 11/29/13 4:10 a.m.
                                                     Re: XCOM XCOM XCOMcB557 11/29/13 6:14 a.m.
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                                                                 Re: XCOM XCOM XCOMtreellama 11/29/13 11:17 a.m.
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                 Re: And Now For Something Completely Different.Narcogen 11/27/13 3:30 p.m.
           Re: And Now For Something Completely Different.Narcogen 11/27/13 3:29 p.m.
     Re: And Now For Something Completely Different.Dispatcher 12/1/13 4:17 p.m.
     Episode 2Narcogen 12/4/13 11:39 p.m.
           Re: Episode 2cB557 12/5/13 1:25 a.m.
           Re: Episode 2jonny 12/5/13 8:43 a.m.
           Re: Episode 2PerseusSpartacus 12/5/13 9:52 a.m.
                 Re: Episode 2cB557 12/5/13 10:46 a.m.
                       Re: Episode 2Narcogen 12/5/13 10:57 p.m.
                 Re: Episode 2Narcogen 12/5/13 10:56 p.m.
                       Re: Episode 2PerseusSpartacus 12/6/13 11:54 a.m.
                             Re: Episode 2Narcogen 12/6/13 3:24 p.m.
                                   Re: Episode 2PerseusSpartacus 12/7/13 12:57 p.m.
           Re: Episode 2 *LINK*Narcogen 12/5/13 10:57 p.m.
                 Re: Episode 2treellama 12/6/13 3:48 a.m.
                       Unreal Gold on OSXNarcogen 12/8/13 7:48 a.m.
                             ClarificationNarcogen 12/8/13 7:53 a.m.
                             Re: Unreal Gold on OSXtreellama 12/9/13 4:55 a.m.
                                   Re: Unreal Gold on OSXNarcogen 12/9/13 6:36 a.m.
                                         Re: Unreal Gold on OSXPerseusSpartacus 12/9/13 8:28 a.m.
                                               Re: Unreal Gold on OSXtreellama 12/9/13 8:53 a.m.
                                                     Re: Unreal Gold on OSXPerseusSpartacus 12/9/13 8:58 a.m.
                                                           Re: Unreal Gold on OSXcB557 12/9/13 10:07 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Unreal Gold on OSXPerseusSpartacus 12/9/13 10:56 a.m.
                                                                       I guess we're talking about Marathon music nowcB557 12/9/13 11:22 a.m.
                                                     Re: Unreal Gold on OSXDispatcher 12/9/13 1:38 p.m.
                                               Re: Unreal Gold on OSXNarcogen 12/9/13 4:24 p.m.
                                                     Re: Unreal Gold on OSXPerseusSpartacus 12/9/13 6:02 p.m.
                                                     Re: Unreal Gold on OSXtreellama 12/10/13 4:16 a.m.
                                                           Re: Unreal Gold on OSXPerseusSpartacus 12/10/13 7:58 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Unreal Gold on OSXDispatcher 12/10/13 9:04 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Unreal Gold on OSXPerseusSpartacus 12/10/13 3:03 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Unreal Gold on OSXDispatcher 12/10/13 4:06 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Unreal Gold on OSXPerseusSpartacus 12/10/13 5:09 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Unreal Gold on OSXtreellama 12/11/13 4:22 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Unreal Gold on OSXpatrick 12/11/13 4:01 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Unreal Gold on OSXtreellama 12/11/13 5:50 p.m.
                                                                                               "Wisdom! Let us be attentive." *NM*patrick 12/13/13 1:02 a.m.
     Something Completely Different Episode 4Narcogen 12/17/13 7:10 p.m.

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