Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot


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Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot

Posted By: Hopper Date: 9/20/12 4:24 p.m.
In Response To: Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot (Godot)

: Interesting point. I wonder if someone could check if the levels with dead
: body scenery items only contain the same live monsters.
Confirmed. No scenery items correspond to inactive monster collections, so any dead bodies indicate that survivors may be nearby. (I didn't actually look at how many dead bodies are placed, so I don't know how common corpses-as-scenery is.)
For experimenters: all of the placed items come from one of three collection sets:
1. The always-loaded items collection (ID 128)
2. The collections of the level's monsters (up to 3)
3. The specified loaded collections for the level (up to 8)
If Pathways is anything like Marathon, it's sure to crash if an item's collection isn't in any of those sets.
The latter two sets are specified in the map. In the stock map, the loaded-collections set never lists any monster collections; I don't know if it would work to add, say, the Headless collection to the loaded-collection list for HHCC. It's possible that would allow you to add different corpses as scenery.
I don't remember if I mentioned this before: all items in a level specify a collection and frame number, but not the color table. So, I'm pretty sure there's no way for the engine to include both Nightmares and Greater Nightmares on the same level.

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More fun with the Pathways Screenshot President People 9/18/12 1:18 p.m.

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Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot Hopper 9/20/12 4:24 p.m.

Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot Godot 9/21/12 7:39 a.m.

Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot President People 9/21/12 8:40 a.m.

Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot Hopper 9/21/12 9:14 p.m.

Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot Godot 9/21/12 10:58 p.m.

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: : Interesting point. I wonder if someone could check if the levels with dead : : body scenery items only contain the same live monsters. : Confirmed. No scenery items correspond to inactive monster collections, so : any dead bodies indicate that survivors may be nearby. (I didn't actually : look at how many dead bodies are placed, so I don't know how common : corpses-as-scenery is.) : For experimenters: all of the placed items come from one of three collection : sets: 1. The always-loaded items collection (ID 128) : 2. The collections of the level's monsters (up to 3) : 3. The specified loaded collections for the level (up to 8) : If Pathways is anything like Marathon, it's sure to crash if an item's : collection isn't in any of those sets. : The latter two sets are specified in the map. In the stock map, the : loaded-collections set never lists any monster collections; I don't know : if it would work to add, say, the Headless collection to the : loaded-collection list for HHCC. It's possible that would allow you to add : different corpses as scenery. : I don't remember if I mentioned this before: all items in a level specify a : collection and frame number, but not the color table. So, I'm pretty sure : there's no way for the engine to include both Nightmares and Greater : Nightmares on the same level.

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More fun with the Pathways Screenshot	President People	9/18/12 1:18 p.m.
Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot	Godot	9/19/12 10:35 a.m.
Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot	Hopper	9/20/12 4:24 p.m.
Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot	Godot	9/21/12 7:39 a.m.
Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot	President People	9/21/12 8:40 a.m.
Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot	Hopper	9/21/12 9:14 p.m.
Re: More fun with the Pathways Screenshot	Godot	9/21/12 10:58 p.m.



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	Message: : : Interesting point. I wonder if someone could check if the levels with dead : : body scenery items only contain the same live monsters. : Confirmed. No scenery items correspond to inactive monster collections, so : any dead bodies indicate that survivors may be nearby. (I didn't actually : look at how many dead bodies are placed, so I don't know how common : corpses-as-scenery is.) : For experimenters: all of the placed items come from one of three collection : sets: 1. The always-loaded items collection (ID 128) : 2. The collections of the level's monsters (up to 3) : 3. The specified loaded collections for the level (up to 8) : If Pathways is anything like Marathon, it's sure to crash if an item's : collection isn't in any of those sets. : The latter two sets are specified in the map. In the stock map, the : loaded-collections set never lists any monster collections; I don't know : if it would work to add, say, the Headless collection to the : loaded-collection list for HHCC. It's possible that would allow you to add : different corpses as scenery. : I don't remember if I mentioned this before: all items in a level specify a : collection and frame number, but not the color table. So, I'm pretty sure : there's no way for the engine to include both Nightmares and Greater : Nightmares on the same level.
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