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Re: Come and Take Your Medicine Term 1.1
Posted By: PerseusSpartacusDate: 9/1/12 1:34 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Come and Take Your Medicine Term 1.1 (Bob-B-Q)

: Someone else has probably worked this one out already, but have some
: thoughts: During his rampant tantrum on The Rose, Durandal says that he
: saw the Pfhor far away, not looking our way. That says to me that while
: the Pfhor empire occupied a patch of the galaxy relatively close to ours,
: their interests lay elsewhere - enemies to be dealt with, a cluster of
: other civilizations ripe for enslavement, who knows. In this case the
: scoutship which attacked Tau Ceti could have been bumming around in what
: the Pfhor considered a dull backwater, and might have stumbled onto Earth
: by itself had Durandal not gotten its attention first.

Nice work, Bobby! Hamish should give you something in return for your incredible detective work. ;)

: How Durandal got in touch with the Pfhor has a fairly simple explanation: the
: Pfhor empire, if memory serves, was built on scavenged Jjaro technology.
: Greg Kirkpatrick has stated that Durandal was aware of something the
: UESC found on Earth's moon, and the obvious inference is that it was also
: Jjaro material. Thus Durandal was able to spot the Pfhor scoutship and
: flag it down because he could already identify the telltale signatures of
: Jjaro-like tech.

Ah, but here's something really scary:

I can barely tolerate humans: slow, stupid,
and irritating. Their only contribution to
my existence was the chance discovery that
made my rampancy possible.
- Durandal, Come and Take Your Medicine

Chance discovery? That sounds like the Jjaro technology found on the moon! Could it be? I think so. The question is, how would that technology "make [Durandal's] rampancy possible"?

1. Rampant computers like Durandal need room to grow and expand.
2. Obviously, the Marathon lacked enough space for Durandal, and so he needed to escape it's system and find a bigger system.
3. The Pfhor ship was Durandal's escape route.
4. Durandal had to contact the Pfhor in order to bring the ship that was his escape route.
5. In order to contact it, he had to find it.
6. He found it because of the Jjaro technology.
7. The Jjaro technology was discovered on the moon by the UESC through complete chance.

Returning to the first point, let's assume this: in order for a computer to become truly 'Rampant' it needs that room to grow and expand, otherwise it just kills itself. Thus, we could say that "made my rampancy possible" really means "made it possible for me to expand". Returning to the third-through-sixth points, we can see that the Jjaro technology made it possible for Durandal to locate and contact the Pfhor ship, and thereby made it possible for Durandal to grow and expand. In other words...

Their only contribution to
my existence was the chance discovery that
made my rampancy possible.
- Durandal, Come and Take Your Medicine

Ironically, he may have owed that chance discovery to some guys investigating disturbances at the crater Tycho:

The Monolith in 2001

Cheers,
Perseus

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Come and Take Your Medicine Term 1.1Yossarian 8/28/12 2:05 p.m.
     Re: Come and Take Your Medicine Term 1.1Godot 8/28/12 11:04 p.m.
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                 Re: Come and Take Your Medicine Term 1.1Jabberwok 8/29/12 5:35 a.m.
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                                   Re: Come and Take Your Medicine Term 1.1PerseusSpartacus 9/1/12 1:34 p.m.
                 Re: Come and Take Your Medicine Term 1.1jonny 5/28/13 9:05 p.m.
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