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Re: Thoth's Origins and the Jjaro
Posted By: QuantumDate: 4/12/12 3:20 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Thoth's Origins and the Jjaro (PerseusSpartacus)

: I think the connection between the Jjaro, Pthia and S'pht helps prove that
: the Jjaro and maybe even the Pthia were a race of cyborgs. Why? There must
: have been some form of visual, perhaps even physical, contact between the
: S'pht, Jjaro and maybe the Pthia. Thus, why would they make a scientific
: assumption that sentience requires a "cyber-organic symbiosis"
: in the first place?

: At this point, one may argue that the S'pht weren't intelligent enough to
: note the presence of "cyber-organic symbiosis" in the Jjaro and
: Pthia. But in fact, they were: if they're intelligent enough to utilize
: and perhaps even build such complex machines as the Jjaro and Pthia
: would have used, obivously they can notice the "cyb-org
: symbiosis" and begin making assumptions about sentience and its link
: to cyber-implants.

: Now, as I said before, given that the Jjaro are cyborgs and Thoth is not a
: cyborg, Thoth is not a Jjaro.

The S'pht had concluded that sentience required cyber-organic symbiosis, but that examination of the Pfhor led to suspicion that their own sentience might be induced by the 'birthing operation' and that S'pht sentience had been built by Yrro. Heretofore they had (somewhat contradictorily) assumed that while their own sentience required machinations, it was also an inherent faculty in their race. This leads me to question whether the S'pht would consider Thoth to be sentient. I think that a species exposed to a purely machine sentience might consider that biological components weren't necessary and would be more likely to accept that their own existence was unnatural. If cyber-organic sentience were the only kind they know, the S'pht wouldn't see an AI like Thoth as a sentient entity.

On the missing Confound Delivery terminal page, Chris Geisel mentions that the S'pht Royalty are failed Jrro, which implies that a successful Jrro would be a cyber-organic existence. The possibility of a S'pht becoming a Jrro supports the view that the Jrro aren't a race in biological terms but a group that had transcended traditional sentience. What would a successful Jrro have looked like? A Thoth-Durandal-type entity? Why did the S'pht royalty failed Jrro, if the Jrro built the S'pht? The Jrro took nonsentient biologicals, gave them sentience and made them servants, but did not elevate them to their own level. I think they would have if it were possible. S'pht myth has Yrro apologizing for having 'failed to preserve you.' Perhaps a true Jrro needs to be built upon a biological sentience.

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Thoth's Origins and the JjaroPerseusSpartacus 4/8/12 8:39 p.m.
     Re: Thoth's Origins and the JjaroGodot 4/9/12 1:38 a.m.
           Re: Thoth's Origins and the JjaroPerseusSpartacus 4/9/12 9:35 a.m.
                 Re: Thoth's Origins and the JjaroHopper 4/9/12 12:53 p.m.
                       Re: Thoth's Origins and the JjaroPerseusSpartacus 4/9/12 2:23 p.m.
                             Re: Thoth's Origins and the Jjarochiasaur11 4/9/12 3:56 p.m.
                                   The Jjaro/Yrro and PthiaPerseusSpartacus 4/9/12 8:57 p.m.
                                         Re: The Jjaro/Yrro and PthiaBob-B-Q 4/10/12 10:38 a.m.
                                               On the W'rkncacnterPerseusSpartacus 4/10/12 11:36 a.m.
                 Re: Thoth's Origins and the JjaroGodot 4/9/12 10:59 p.m.
                       Re: Thoth's Origins and the JjaroGodot 4/9/12 11:16 p.m.
                 Re: Thoth's Origins and the JjaroPerseusSpartacus 4/10/12 3:09 p.m.
                       Re: Thoth's Origins and the JjaroQuantum 4/12/12 3:20 p.m.
                             Re: Thoth's Origins and the JjaroPerseusSpartacus 4/12/12 10:23 p.m.
                                   Re: Thoth's Origins and the JjaroQuantum 4/13/12 1:08 p.m.

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