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Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2
Posted By: Forrest of B.orgDate: 1/5/08 4:00 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2 (Elderman)

: Mostly, I think it looks great. The prologue strikes me as particularly
: pretty with the very subtle colors on the walls and shaded patterns on the
: floor. Very cool! On the other hand the first terminal is very long. I
: might have read it all in an earlier version, but I think I read a few,
: dense screens, and then left to explore. It might be more palatable spread
: over several terminals?

Finally, someone who likes the subtle colors! :-)

And I know that prologue terminal is huge, but it really wouldn't make sense spread out over several terminals, since it's a log entry that you just wrote, not something you'd find bits and pieces of scattered all over. It used to be in a text file but then people said "wtf is going on?" because they didn't read it; then I put it in a scrolling chapter screen and people complained that it was tl;dr. So a terminal seemed a good compromise: right there inviting you to read it, but you can read it at your leisure or skip it entirely if you want.

: I thought both Deja Vu and Septococcal were excellent, fun levels: lots to
: explore, very straight forward, plenty of shooting. I did wonder, though,
: why all the doors were working so well. I remember how difficult Durandal
: made it for me the first time and this time saw no sign of him.

It's still very early in the attack on the Marathon; the Emergency Systems Broadcast that you read first thing in M1 hasn't even been sent out until toward the end of Chapter 1. Later on things get a little wackier, especially on "Unwired".

: Did you say that you caught flack for ugly Pfhor levels? Personally, I
: thought Dysmetria was gorgeous. Also a serious maze that really turned my
: head inside out.

I caught flack for them a long time ago. Now people generally agree that the Pfhor set is the best.

: Sakhmet Rising started well, and I was excited about the race for time with
: my oxygen levels running low. When the level slowed down, though, I liked
: it less. It was less attractive than the earlier levels, fairly
: monochrome, and it felt familiar... is that because I've played a few of
: the Eternal levels before or is it based off a Marathon level?

It's inspired by M1's "G4 Sunbathing", and also one of the least-changed levels in Eternal's development history, so you've probably seen it before.

: I liked the developing relationship with Hathor, though. Is she an Eternal
: creation or an AI in the original series? The name's familiar, but I can't
: place her.

She's an original creation, though I link her to preexisting Marathon elements (she was another Mjolnir Mk IV cyborg; and she is also another character briefly and cryptically spoken of once in Marathon 2, but that's a surprise I won't spoil for you).

: It was a sort of unpleasant shock for her to name me. I understand your
: reason and I think it gets the effect you want, so far, but it feels
: uncomfortable. It's probably not something you'll want to change after
: having worked this way for so long, but there are other ways to get a
: similar effect. For instance, a set of intimate epithets might evoke the
: intimacy, without giving the player the shock of being addressed by name.
: They'd also give you room for more expressiveness: 'my hero' when she's
: trying to seduce you; 'my partner' when she's working closely and
: efficiently with you; 'Tycho's slave' when you've abandoned her. Just
: thought I'd mention it.

Her using your name was actually meant to be a little creepy. Think about it; how often do you refer to people repeatedly by name when speaking directly to them? "Hello, Elderman. Blah blah blah blah blah. Please, Elderman, I beg of you, blah blah blah blah blah. I know only you would understand that blah blah blah blah, Elderman." A little creepy eh?

: - Sometimes, after a level has finished loading the game will pause with a
: completely white screen and one dot in the lower right hand side of the
: screen.

Hey, someone else gets that bug! I have no idea what causes it - it's something with AO, I think maybe it has something to do with the very first view in a level having a landscape texture in it, but I'm not sure, and IIRC Gregory was unable to reproduce it when I reported it to him a while back. So I don't know what's going on there.

: Anyway, that's as far as I've got. It's pretty darn good so far. I look
: forward to continuing.

Thanks a bunch :-)

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Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 12/30/07 4:12 p.m.
     Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Blake37 12/30/07 4:36 p.m.
           Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 12/30/07 5:02 p.m.
                 Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Blake37 12/30/07 6:17 p.m.
                       Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 12/30/07 9:06 p.m.
                             Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Blake37 12/31/07 5:52 a.m.
                                   Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 12/31/07 7:55 a.m.
                                         Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2patrick 12/31/07 10:16 a.m.
                                               Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 12/31/07 1:20 p.m.
                                                     Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2patrick 12/31/07 2:03 p.m.
                                                           Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2patrick 12/31/07 2:36 p.m.
                                                                 err, I mean 'My Kingdom Pfhor A Horse', poly 687 *NM*patrick 12/31/07 3:04 p.m.
                                                           WinRAR unzipped it fine for me. *NM*Document 12/31/07 4:01 p.m.
                 Waiting for confirmation of upload. *NM*Document 12/30/07 6:18 p.m.
     Argh!Forrest of B.org 1/1/08 2:09 a.m.
           Can you also upload just the map file? *NM*Document 1/1/08 6:54 a.m.
                 Re: Can you also upload just the map file?Document 1/1/08 6:57 a.m.
                       Re: Can you also upload just the map file?Forrest of B.org 1/1/08 2:41 p.m.
           Re: Argh!Blake37 1/1/08 9:47 a.m.
           bungie.org appears to be having server trouble. *NM*Document 1/1/08 10:25 a.m.
     Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Marathoner325 1/1/08 4:15 p.m.
     Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2SnowCrash 1/4/08 9:32 a.m.
           Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/4/08 11:13 a.m.
                 I intend on going through it next week. *NM*patrick 1/4/08 1:24 p.m.
                 Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Document 1/4/08 2:50 p.m.
                       Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/4/08 8:44 p.m.
                             Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Document 1/6/08 2:31 p.m.
                             Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2D-M.A. 1/6/08 3:06 p.m.
                                   Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Document 1/6/08 3:17 p.m.
                                         Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2D-M.A. 1/6/08 3:18 p.m.
                                               Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2treellama 1/6/08 4:27 p.m.
                                                     Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2D-M.A. 1/6/08 7:48 p.m.
                             Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Document 1/16/08 6:41 p.m.
                                   Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2kyjel 1/16/08 7:58 p.m.
                                   Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Document 1/17/08 12:22 p.m.
                                         Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Marathoner325 1/17/08 5:14 p.m.
                                               Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/17/08 6:12 p.m.
                                                     Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2kyjel 1/17/08 8:13 p.m.
                                                     Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Marathoner325 1/18/08 6:09 a.m.
                             Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Document 2/5/08 4:37 a.m.
                 Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Elderman 1/5/08 8:06 a.m.
                       Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/5/08 4:00 p.m.
                             Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2bluewpc 1/5/08 4:53 p.m.
                                   Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/6/08 2:47 a.m.
                                         Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2bluewpc 1/6/08 6:42 a.m.
                                               Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/6/08 10:50 a.m.
                             Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Elderman 1/6/08 5:14 a.m.
                                   Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/6/08 11:11 a.m.
                                         Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Elderman 1/7/08 6:04 a.m.
                                               Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Elderman 1/9/08 3:48 a.m.
                 Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2SnowCrash 1/7/08 11:48 a.m.
                       Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/7/08 11:02 p.m.
                             Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2SnowCrash 1/8/08 12:04 a.m.
                             Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2SnowCrash 1/8/08 5:30 a.m.
                                   Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2SnowCrash 1/8/08 6:09 a.m.
                                         Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2SnowCrash 1/8/08 8:05 a.m.
                                               Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/8/08 8:19 a.m.
                                                     Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/8/08 10:15 a.m.
                                                           Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2SnowCrash 1/8/08 12:46 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/8/08 1:19 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/8/08 11:07 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2SnowCrash 1/9/08 1:24 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/9/08 3:40 p.m.
                       Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Forrest of B.org 1/10/08 8:05 p.m.
                             Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2SnowCrash 1/11/08 2:08 a.m.
     Re: Eternal X Final Candidate 2Tek 1/9/08 5:24 p.m.

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